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Royal Blue Rebuild

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Royal Blue Rebuild
Posted by Mononflyer on Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:56 PM

Hey all,

I am in the process of rebuilding my Uncle's 1951 Royal Blue.  I have a can motor and an electronic e unit.  The e unit is working fine, but the can motor is real loud and rough.  It is a SNS trains motor and the worm gear doesnt look right.

I have a Timko motor with a flywheel that runs a lot better, but the flywheel rubs against the horizontal brace in the cab. Would a Timko without a flywheel be better?

I also got a new chassis, drilled a hole in the boiler for smoke and then drilled a new hole in the smoke unit a bit further back so the holes would match up.  Smoke unit works great with no change in performance.

Ill get to posting some photos a bit later.

 

Thanks,

 

RM

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Friday, December 23, 2016 7:12 AM

Sounds like a great project.  Both Krylon and Valspar make a bue that is dead on match.

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Posted by Mononflyer on Friday, December 23, 2016 10:15 PM

Is the paint called Royal Blue?  I found a Royal Blue by Rustoleum, but it doesnt look dark enough. 

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Saturday, December 24, 2016 8:24 PM

I'll look to see if I can find the name

Jim

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Posted by Mononflyer on Monday, December 26, 2016 12:49 AM

Here are a few pictures so far...

 

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:35 PM

I found the paint I used.  Valspar Gloss Blue # 64007

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Posted by LL675 on Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:49 PM

great job!

Dave

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Posted by Mononflyer on Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:43 PM

Sturgeon-Phish

I found the paint I used.  Valspar Gloss Blue # 64007

Jim

 

Do you know where I can get it?  Cant find any so far....

 

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Monday, January 2, 2017 6:25 AM

I got it at Lowes a few years back

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Posted by Mononflyer on Monday, January 2, 2017 2:57 PM

Our Lowes does not have it, so I'll look around at other places.  If I cant find it, I can get a good repro color from Portlines, but its 22 bucks a can.

 

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Monday, January 2, 2017 6:01 PM

You may want to go to Walmart Lowes or other places that sell paint in rattle cans and see what gets close enough.  I'll check to see if the paint is still good and if it is you can have what is left in the can I have.

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Posted by Mononflyer on Monday, January 23, 2017 7:09 PM

Well, I have it painted now. I went ahead and spent the cash for the paint from Portlines. I must say it is very nice paint. I probably spent as much trying other paints that said they were Royal Blue, but were not.

I used a prewar tender shell because I thought it looked better.

Got a nice connector for the smoke and light to run directly from the tender trucks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:54 AM

Looking good

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Posted by Mononflyer on Monday, February 6, 2017 10:39 PM

Finished the decals and installed the trucks and e-unit on the tender chassis.

  photo Royal Blue Boiler Decals1.jpg

 photo Royal Blue Tender Decals1.jpg

 photo Royal Blue Tender and Chassis1.jpg

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Posted by Mononflyer on Sunday, February 12, 2017 6:30 PM

Well, I am pretty much finished.  I was having trouble getting the rivets for the valve gear to set properly, so I used a couple of small brass machine screws.  I am going to fillin the slits and paint the heads blue.

 

 

 

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Posted by Mononflyer on Sunday, February 12, 2017 7:45 PM

Here's a video:

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Monday, February 13, 2017 6:48 AM

Great Job!

Thinking about the next project?

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Posted by LL675 on Monday, February 13, 2017 8:20 AM

that turned out great!

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Posted by Mononflyer on Monday, February 13, 2017 8:45 AM

Sturgeon-Phish

Great Job!

Thinking about the next project?

Jim

 

 Yep, I am looking for a scratched up set of New Haven passenger cars to repaint.  Don't know why Flyer didnt make a postwar set of those for the Royal Blue.
 
Wondering if the prewar set would look better.....
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Posted by lionelsoni on Monday, February 13, 2017 12:39 PM

I think you've got the eccentric crank set wrong.  The picture seems to me to show that it's only about 45 degrees from the main crank and that it is even below the railhead.  It should be 90 degrees from the main crank.

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Posted by Mononflyer on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:32 AM

Thanks for catching that. I thought it looked a bit weird. Funny thing is that I did the other side correct.

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Posted by Expat1 on Saturday, March 4, 2017 2:58 PM

If you know someone who has a metal lathe, he or she could turn down the diameter of the flywhees and reduce the thickness if necessary to clear the cab.  

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Posted by Mononflyer on Monday, March 6, 2017 9:11 AM

I ground down a bit off the horizontal brace on the shell to fit. Figured that would be a lot easier.

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