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Wheel removal on Lionel Scout.

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Wheel removal on Lionel Scout.
Posted by tinplatacis on Friday, March 25, 2016 8:04 AM

I recently acquired a 237 and 239 for a younger relative. The 239 works fine, but the 237 does not. He asked me to fix it, but it is my first time working with a Scout motor, and I cannot remove the wheel sets to look inside. I cleaned the commuter and brushes, and the fingers and reverse drums, and as such am certain that the lack of running is internal, since there is not even a satisfying hum from the motor. How would I remove the wheels? I have been alternating between 2 screwdrivers and a bottle opener, with little luck. I have heard of a wheel puller tool, does anyone know how much they are and where I can find the,?

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Posted by lionelsoni on Friday, March 25, 2016 9:46 AM

Here's what one looks like:

The Lionel number is ST-311.  You can probably find one on E-bay, although there are none for sale right now.  The puller includes two pins that go into the center screw, to fit axles of different diameters.

When using the puller (or whatever substitute tools you are using), do not try to pull the wheel directly off.  Instead tighten the puller moderately, then tap on the end of the center screw, to drive the axle out of the wheel.  Alternate tightening and tapping until the wheel comes off.

Bob Nelson

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Posted by cwburfle on Friday, March 25, 2016 11:03 AM

I use a late version Lionel ST-311 on a regular basis, but they are not aways available, and tend to be expensive.
Check out wheel puller #2 on the portlines hobby site.

http://www.portlines.com/tools2.htm

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, March 25, 2016 8:27 PM

For what it is worth I have always been told do not open a scout motor as it's almost inpossible to get back together correctly

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

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Posted by cwburfle on Saturday, March 26, 2016 5:19 AM

With the Lionel Service Manual available as reprints and online, Scout motors can be repaired. The motors are more complicated than most, but it can be done. Here are two sets of instructions, I suggest reading both:

The 1960's scouts: http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/233.htm
The 1950's scouts: http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/1001.htm

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Posted by tinplatacis on Saturday, March 26, 2016 6:29 AM

The issue has been resolved. Turns out I wasnt paying attention to the orientation of the drums.

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