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Old Lionel 022 Switches
Posted by Hotrod on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:41 PM

I have a problem with some of my old 022 switches completing their track alignment which causes some derailments. I've taken them apart and tried to modify the moving contact assembly and lock hinge; these terms are used in the service manual. The swivil rail does not lock completely in either of the 2 extreme positions even at full power. I have tried bending the front bar slighly but the track only goes about 95% of the way. Out of 15 switches, I'd say about 1/2 have this plague. Has anyone found "the cure"?  Also what's the best way and substance to clean and shine bakelite pieces. 

thanks,

Rod in CT.

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Posted by servoguy on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:30 PM

I wrote a long post about restoring 022 switches a few years ago.  Do a Google search for 022/711 switch operating pblms.  I have done more than 100 switches.  

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Posted by rrswede on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:56 PM

From servoguy's post of 12/10/2009.

 I have just finished a long project of restoring 55 022 switches.  Here is what I have found and what I recommend.  I hope I don't miss anything.  This involves oiling and soldering and a little adjustment.  When you are done with the switches, they should operate very smoothly.

 1.  Remove the switch motor cover, the switch motor, and the back cover of the switch.

2.  Lubricate the following places in the switch motor:  The latch should be oiled at the pivots and where it slides over the moving piece that is connected to the solenoid.  Lubricate the lantern pivot and the gear.  Lubricate the slide that is attached to the solenoid.  Lubricate the two rivets that hold the slide with the contacts.  Put two drops of oil in the solenoid.  Test the switch motor by putting a lantern in the lantern holder and turning it. It should turn very freely. 

3. Solder all the crimp connections on the bottom side of the switch.  These are often high resistance due to corrosion.  I either wire brush them with a small soft wire wheel in a Dremel tool, or use a fine sandpaper wheel in the Dremel tool.  There are a total of 6 places to solder:  Two for the center rails, one for each of the rails that are the rails for the non-derailing feature, and two that connect the two outside rails together.  To sand the clip that connects the two outer rails, I had to reverse the sanding disc on the Dremel tool.  Don't put too much solder on this clip, or the solder may interfere with the operation of the switch motor.  Use a Scotchbrite pad to clean the clip where it contacts the switch motor frame.  This is the ground connection between the switch motor and the outside rails.  Clean the corresponding area on the switch motor, and put a little WD-40 on things. Tighten the screw that connects the center rail to the strap.  Work the screw back and forth a couple of times to burnish the contact area.  Test the connections between the outside rails and the center rails. I use a cheap meter that you can buy from Harbor Freight for this.  The resistance should be less than 0.1 ohms. These cheap meters usually don't read zero ohms when you short the leads together, but whatever they do read with the leads shorted you can use as your "zero." 

4. Clean the silver contacts with WD-40.  Most of the tarnish should come off of them.  Do not use anything abrasive to clean them as it will probably damage the silver.  Leave some WD-40 on these contacts as it is an excellent contact cleaner. 

5. Use a wire brush on a Dremel tool to clean the 3 contacts on the bottom of the switch that connect to the switch motor.  One of these is a flat brass strip that is spring loaded and connects to the fat center rail.  The other two connect to the two rails that are used to make the switch non-derailing.  

6. Clean the two contacts on the switch motor that mate with the two pins on the bottom of the switch that connect to the non-derailing rails.  Bend these two up a little so they make a good contact, and put a little WD-40 on them. Clean the two brass contacts on each side between the silver contacts with a wire brush on the Dremel tool.  These two contact are where the power comes to the switch motor from the center rail.  One or the other is used depending on which side the switch motor is on.

7. Put a little WD-40 on the contact spring that contacts the pin for the constant voltage plug.  Snap the spring a few times to make sure the contact is clean.  If the rivet that holds this spring is broken (I had two switches with broken rivets), you can repair it by soldering it back together.  Clean both surfaces with a wire wheel in a Dremel tool, and tin each surface with solder.  Then hold the spring in place and heat the spring until the solder softens, and then hold the spring in place until the solder cools.  You need to make sure the spring is somewhat bent when you do this so that it makes a good contact with the pin.

8. Put the switch motor back on the switch.  Put a drop of oil in each of the screw holes so you can get the screws out 100 years from now.  Check the switch for smooth operation.   It should operate smoothly with minimal friction.  Check the resistance between each of the outer terminals and the appropriate non-derailing rail.  Once again, the resistance should be less than 0.1 ohms.  Check the resistance between the center rail and the constant voltage pin. It should be less than 0.1 ohms. Check the resistance between the center terminal and one of the outside rails.  It should be less than 0.1 ohms. Check the resistance between each of the outer terminals and the center rail with the switch points about half way beween the two outer rails.  They should be about 7-8 ohms. 

9. There is a solder tab on the constant voltage pin that is usually very near the pin.  If you bend this tab away from the pin, you can use a blue crimp lug for a constant voltage plug.  These crimp lugs don't come loose like the Lionel plugs do.  Some switch motors have a pin that is too large to use the crimp lug, so for these, you will have to use a Lionel plug.

10. Put the covers on and again check the switch for smooth operation.  You may have to move the switch motor cover around a little to make sure the lantern does not bind against the cover.  

 11.  Check the end of the fat center rail to see that it is not bent down.  If it is, your little 0-4-0 switch engine may stall on the switch.  If you bend it up too far, it will open the electromagnetic couplers for you. 

I hope I didn't miss anything.  If I think of something else, I'll post it later.

Servoguy, is this the post you were referring to?

 Hotrod, do a search of "022/711 Switch operation pblms". You will see the above material plus more that servoguy added.

Good luck, Swede

 

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Posted by servoguy on Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:47 AM

There is more to it than you posted.  Other guys added stuff, and I added more stuff.  

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Posted by kovo123 on Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:12 PM

[quote user="rrswede"]

From servoguy's post of 12/10/2009.

 I have just finished a long project of restoring 55 022 switches.  Here is what I have found and what I recommend.  I hope I don't miss anything.  This involves oiling and soldering and a little adjustment.  When you are done with the switches, they should operate very smoothly.

 1.  Remove the switch motor cover, the switch motor, and the back cover of the switch.

2.  Lubricate the following places in the switch motor:  The latch should be oiled at the pivots and where it slides over the moving piece that is connected to the solenoid.  Lubricate the lantern pivot and the gear.  Lubricate the slide that is attached to the solenoid.  Lubricate the two rivets that hold the slide with the contacts.  Put two drops of oil in the solenoid.  Test the switch motor by putting a lantern in the lantern holder and turning it. It should turn very freely. 

3. Solder all the crimp connections on the bottom side of the switch.  These are often high resistance due to corrosion.  I either wire brush them with a small soft wire wheel in a Dremel tool, or use a fine sandpaper wheel in the Dremel tool.  There are a total of 6 places to solder:  Two for the center rails, one for each of the rails that are the rails for the non-derailing feature, and two that connect the two outside rails together.  To sand the clip that connects the two outer rails, I had to reverse the sanding disc on the Dremel tool.  Don't put too much solder on this clip, or the solder may interfere with the operation of the switch motor.  Use a Scotchbrite pad to clean the clip where it contacts the switch motor frame.  This is the ground connection between the switch motor and the outside rails.  Clean the corresponding area on the switch motor, and put a little WD-40 on things. Tighten the screw that connects the center rail to the strap.  Work the screw back and forth a couple of times to burnish the contact area.  Test the connections between the outside rails and the center rails. I use a cheap meter that you can buy from Harbor Freight for this.  The resistance should be less than 0.1 ohms. These cheap meters usually don't read zero ohms when you short the leads together, but whatever they do read with the leads shorted you can use as your "zero." 

4. Clean the silver contacts with WD-40.  Most of the tarnish should come off of them.  Do not use anything abrasive to clean them as it will probably damage the silver.  Leave some WD-40 on these contacts as it is an excellent contact cleaner. 

5. Use a wire brush on a Dremel tool to clean the 3 contacts on the bottom of the switch that connect to the switch motor.  One of these is a flat brass strip that is spring loaded and connects to the fat center rail.  The other two connect to the two rails that are used to make the switch non-derailing.  

6. Clean the two contacts on the switch motor that mate with the two pins on the bottom of the switch that connect to the non-derailing rails.  Bend these two up a little so they make a good contact, and put a little WD-40 on them. Clean the two brass contacts on each side between the silver contacts with a wire brush on the Dremel tool.  These two contact are where the power comes to the switch motor from the center rail.  One or the other is used depending on which side the switch motor is on.

7. Put a little WD-40 on the contact spring that contacts the pin for the constant voltage plug.  Snap the spring a few times to make sure the contact is clean.  If the rivet that holds this spring is broken (I had two switches with broken rivets), you can repair it by soldering it back together.  Clean both surfaces with a wire wheel in a Dremel tool, and tin each surface with solder.  Then hold the spring in place and heat the spring until the solder softens, and then hold the spring in place until the solder cools.  You need to make sure the spring is somewhat bent when you do this so that it makes a good contact with the pin.

8. Put the switch motor back on the switch.  Put a drop of oil in each of the screw holes so you can get the screws out 100 years from now.  Check the switch for smooth operation.   It should operate smoothly with minimal friction.  Check the resistance between each of the outer terminals and the appropriate non-derailing rail.  Once again, the resistance should be less than 0.1 ohms.  Check the resistance between the center rail and the constant voltage pin. It should be less than 0.1 ohms. Check the resistance between the center terminal and one of the outside rails.  It should be less than 0.1 ohms. Check the resistance between each of the outer terminals and the center rail with the switch points about half way beween the two outer rails.  They should be about 7-8 ohms. 

9. There is a solder tab on the constant voltage pin that is usually very near the pin.  If you bend this tab away from the pin, you can use a blue crimp lug for a constant voltage plug.  These crimp lugs don't come loose like the Lionel plugs do.  Some switch motors have a pin that is too large to use the crimp lug, so for these, you will have to use a Lionel plug.

10. Put the covers on and again check the switch for smooth operation.  You may have to move the switch motor cover around a little to make sure the lantern does not bind against the cover.  

 11.  Check the end of the fat center rail to see that it is not bent down.  If it is, your little 0-4-0 switch engine may stall on the switch.  If you bend it up too far, it will open the electromagnetic couplers for you. 

I hope I didn't miss anything.  If I think of something else, I'll post it later.

Servoguy, is this the post you were referring to?

 Hotrod, do a search of "022/711 Switch operation pblms". You will see the above material plus more that servoguy added.

Good luck, Swede

 

Looking a video of 022 switch repairs, know of any?
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Posted by BigAl 956 on Tuesday, April 4, 2017 1:32 PM

Here is something else to look at after you have done everything else posted here.

I find that the alignment of the wipers that control when the motor cuts out can be off. Look carefully at the working switch motors and you will see there is a tiny pin that extends into the center slot of the wiper that holds it in the percise position. On the non-working switches that pin is broken off and the wiper angle shifts and causes the motor to move improperly and not fully switch.

Unfortunately I have yet to figure out how to repair this defect. that pin is incorporated into the slide assembly and you have to dissasemble the entire switch to replace it assuming you can find the part. And even if you do all that it appears there is a percision custom rivet that must be replaced to reassemble.

Good luck and let us know how you make out.

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