We have a Santa Fe 2343 that the motor runs great but the wheels just spin whn trying to move forward. We have only three passenger cars behind. The unit will push backward pretty good. We have put on new rubber tires but no help. I have tried weights on the engine and that helped some. I would think that thei engine should pull treee cars with no problem. Any suggestions?
clean the oil and grease off of the track and wheels using rubbing alcohol.
Make sure the motors are running in the same direction. Someone may have "fixed" the wiring and the motors are running in opposite directions. I didn't know that a 2343 had traction tires. A 2343 should be an F-3 diesel with twin motors and magnetraction.
What do you have? As Servoguy wrote, a postwar Lionel 2343 Santa Fe has magnetraction.
Do you have a relatively recent engine marked 2343 on the side?
Like the man said, clean the wheels and track.
Edit: I was assuming both motors were working. So yes only one motor running would cause the wheels to spin.
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I notice that you wrote, "the motor runs great", not "the motors run great". There should be two motors, one on each truck. If the wheels of only one truck are spinning, then the other truck's motor is not working.
Bob Nelson
As mentioned one of your motors is most likely not running. My 2343 will pull 10 passenger cars with no problem.
Mine had an intermittent problem where one motor would shut off occasionally. It turned out to be that one of the motors had a bad connection on one of the input wires. It looked like it was soldered but it was not. An original factory cold solder joint, well hidden.
I will have to agree with everyone here. I just had this problem with my 2343 the fron wheels on miine were not moving. Remove the shell and take a can of compressed air or compressor and blow the debri from the motor and around the wheels. This may do it for you it worked wonders for me.
Kev
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Thank you everyone for the comments. Now that we have correctly identified the engine as a 6-1285 Santa Fe Twin Diesel, it is obvious that it is missing a motor. Guess that will be the next phase of this story, find a motor and truck..
6-1285 appears to be the number of a Lionel Set from 1972 that came with a Santa Fe AB locomotive. The locomotive in that set is a #8020, which should only have one motor, and does have tire traction.
The number should appear on the side of the locomotive
The "A" unit has one motor, and a place for the engineer, with a windshield, and a headlight.
The "B" unit is a dummy, it does not have a motor, and looks like a rectangular box, no headlight or windshield. I do not know how to post a picture here.
While 6-1285 was a freight set, an 8020 should have no trouble pulling three modern era 027 passenger cars. What are the car numbers?
If they are 027 cars, I would suspect the traction tires.
Apparently the locomotive isn't the only one spinning its wheels in this topic. I think we need photographs of the rolling stock involved before we waste any further effort on diagnosis.
ccilarrywe have correctly identified the engine as a 6-1285 Santa Fe Twin Diesel, it is obvious that it is missing a motor...
Here is the 1285 Santa Fe Twin Diesel set from 1972. It only has 1 motor.
Here is the Twin Diesel pair from the set - 8020 and 8021:
Is this what you have?
Rob
Was not this originally stated as being a 2343?
Dave632Was not this originally stated as being a 2343
ccilarryThank you everyone for the comments. Now that we have correctly identified the engine as a 6-1285 Santa Fe Twin Diesel, it is obvious that it is missing a motor. Guess that will be the next phase of this story, find a motor and truck..
If you have the engine shown above, it only had 1 motor and was designed as a set engine that will only pull a few cars. So back to the beginning, check the rubber tires and clean the track.
S.J.
CClarry has not posted since 11/09. At this point, it seems unlikely that he has an F3 diesel set. We think he may have an 8020 Santa Fe Alco set, but he has not confirmed this.
We also don't know what kind of passenger cars he is trying to pull. IMHO, until we do, there is little point in making recommendations.
True he hasn't posted, but he could be following it. The information is still good for anyone that might need it.
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