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Rivet Selection
Posted by ICNCU222 on Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:55 AM

Hello again!

 

I wanted to extend my thanks to those who replied to my first post. I have another question to ask that refers to the rivets/eyelit rivets? Against my better judgment, I have decided to dismantle the train completely which means removing several rivets.

Specifically, I need to know what type of rivet was used on such trains as the Frontenac, Dixie Queen, and maybe all other pre-war American Flyer trains. I have attached picture of what the rivets look like on my train. In addition, I need to know what tools are most effective in removing the rivets shown in the pictures, and which ones are most effective in installing the rivets back in.

I know this may seem trivial, but I want to make sure that the rivets that I will install are the closest possible ones to the original. Please let me know if you can help me in any way as to which resources I can approach to get these items.

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Thank  you,

 

Brian

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:51 AM

Rob

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Posted by Nationwidelines on Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:18 AM

Check out

 

www.hansonrivet.com

 

There are specific ways to measure the eyelets/rivets and they should be explained on the website

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Posted by Papa_D on Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:34 PM

What is shown in your photos are eyelets.  They are much easier to install than rivets; however they still require specialized tools.  I'm no expert but have have retored a Marx light tower that required replacing several eyelets.  Shown below are the eyelets and tool I used.

Eyelets come in many different sizes and materials.  Here are some examples. Look on eBay or go to The Robert Grossman Company.  They sell two different size eyelets plus the setting tool.

Shown are setting tools that you can buy at a crafts store such as Michael's.  They work fine if you have access to bother sides.

  Hope this helps.

Papa D

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Posted by ICNCU222 on Monday, March 25, 2013 1:48 AM

Hello Papa D,

 

Thank you for your helpful post! Would you be able to tell me how you were able to remove these eyelets? As you can see in the pictures, some of them are but up against the walls and attaché to the base. They don't appear sloppy, so I can't get a tool under the flair and lift to pry off. Plus, I want to do as minimal damage as possible.

 

Thank you,

 

Brian

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Posted by Papa_D on Monday, March 25, 2013 4:09 AM

I used a large size drill bit to remove the eyelet rim. For those eyelets that I couldn't access with my drill because of its length, I  used a Dremmal with a spherical grinding bit. In both cases it's a matter of proceeding slowly. This approach resulted in leaving no machining marks on the base metal. Again, I'm no expert, there may be a better, easier way.

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