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No more 746 J!
Posted by tjl0824 on Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:42 PM

Did anyone else notice the 2245 Texas Specials at the top? Or have those been there a while?

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Posted by 8ntruck on Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:33 PM

First thing I noticed when I signed on to the forum tonight.

I like them, but I'm a bit biased.  My first train set was the 1958 Texas Special freight.  I'm also currently living in the middle of MKT territory.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, August 24, 2012 7:04 AM

I guess it was just time to rotate to another engine. In time Ibet it will change again maybe a Big Boy or something steam from NYC or PA or B&O who knows personally I would like to see it changed about once a month as to me theres plenty of railroads they could do and plenty of different types of engines they could do also rotating back and forth between a steam type and a diesel type and they even could put a few electric types in there also as my favorite electric is a PRR GG-1 Tuscan 5 stripe

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Posted by TRAINCAT on Friday, August 24, 2012 9:46 AM

I still see the 746 J at the top.

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Posted by overlandflyer on Friday, August 24, 2012 10:25 AM

dump your cache.

in Firefox:  Tools>>Options>>Advanced (Network tab)

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Posted by EIS2 on Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:50 AM

The picture at the top has alternated for me.  Yesterday when I read this thread, the746J was still on top.  That had to be after the 746J was replaced or this thread would not have existed.  Today, the Texas Special is on top.

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Posted by sir james I on Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:20 PM

I have the 746, hope it stays.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:29 PM

sir james I
I have the 746, hope it stays.

It will, at least until your web content cache clears.

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Posted by EIS2 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:58 AM

jeffrey-wimberly

sir james I
I have the 746, hope it stays.

It will, at least until your web content cache clears.

Why does the picture stay if the web page contains new threads that load?  Doesn't it load all of the page when the page is refreshed?

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:31 AM

I second rtraincollectors motion of a monthly "roll-over" of the locomotive at the top of the "Forum" page, it would keep things a lot more interesting than they are.  Just a personal note, as much as I like the Lionel "J" I've always found it slightly annoying they used a "746"  number on it instead of a prototypical  "600"  through "613".  Don't know why it annoyed me as I don't consider myself a "rivet-counter".  Anyone know why Lionel did that?

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:53 AM

Firelock76
Anyone know why Lionel did that?

746 was the next catalog number in the series based on a progression of the 8-wheel worm drive steamers.

726-736-746.

Not a hard-fast rule, just a guideline. Other than the 5344, Lionel did not use road numbers before the modern eras.

A higher number usually denotes upgrades or additional features, and not necessarily chronological either.

Think(eg.):

2016-2026-2036

2046-2056(although a downgrade for this one)

671-681

2025-2035

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:20 PM

EIS2

Why does the picture stay if the web page contains new threads that load?  Doesn't it load all of the page when the page is refreshed?

My guess is that the address for the picture is simply a place holder. When your computer loads in the information it's going to bring up the picture that's in your web content cache in favor of the one that's in the forum info. Sort of like form letter information stored in a word processor file memory record. Until the cache is cleared the computer will keep using the picture it has. Computers are idiots. They'll keep doing the same thing over and over no matter how crazy it seems until told different.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:39 PM

There is the "6200" on the smokebox of the steam turbines, although the cab had the model number.

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Posted by KRM on Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:48 PM

Good point Bob,

 My 681 does have 6200 on the front. i wonder what their thinking was on that.

 I too would like to see the top picture roll over more often.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:31 PM

KRM

Good point Bob,

 My 681 does have 6200 on the front. i wonder what their thinking was on that.

 I too would like to see the top picture roll over more often.

My guess is that since it was a postwar era model, Lionel tried to stay somewhat prototype orianted while still making toys, and used the item number for the ease of looking through records.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM

To ACDX Rob:  Thanks for the response, now I can sleep at nights!  No, wait a minute, now why the heck does Williams use the 746 number?  ARGHHHHH!!!

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Posted by tjl0824 on Monday, August 27, 2012 10:35 AM

Lionel numbers aren't randomly picked, they have meaning behind them. In 1950, all the numbers were increased by ten, to denote the addition of Magne-traction. The following changes occured:

1110 to 1120

2026 to 2036

2025 to 2035 (675 was dropped from the line)

671 to 681 (2020 was dropped from the line)

2333 to 2343

726 to 736

2046 was added to the line

Then in 1952, due to the war, Magne-traction was dropped from steam locomotives. The numbers then were decreased by ten, reverting back to the pre-1950 numbers, with two including RR (not sure why):

2035 to 2025

736 to 726RR

681 to 671RR

2046 to 2056 (this happened because there was no 1949 number, since it came along with the addition of Magne-traction, and 2036 was already in use)

There may be a few I missed, but you get the point

Another overlooked rule is the 20- and 6- prefixes. There is no difference between a 2020 and a 671 turbine, besides the sets they were used in. A 2020 was only included in 027 sets, and a 671 was only included in O-gauge sets. So 6- denotes use in O-gauge sets, and 20- denotes use in 027 sets.

I think this also proves that I spend too much time reading Lionel catalogs :)

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Posted by DMUinCT on Monday, August 27, 2012 10:43 AM

No rime or reason! 

Pre-War the first 700 was the 700EW (5344 Hudson) followed by the 708 (8976 Switcher) yet three years before they had used 752W for the power car of the "City of Portland".(UP Streamliner).  700 numbers appears to have been used for O-72 track and sets.

After WWII the 226 added another set of drivers going from a 2-6-4 to a 2-8-4 and became a 726. Add "Magne-Traction"  and it's a 736.

If the 700EW is the best example of "Lionel", then maybe it should be at the top of the page.

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Posted by fifedog on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:07 AM

Y'all got way too much time...

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Posted by DMUinCT on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM

fifedog

Y'all got way too much time...

...guess the same goes for me...Dunce

That's why I spend some of it a YORK!

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