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What was the 1956 Lackawanna 2321 set consist? HELP PLEASE!

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What was the 1956 Lackawanna 2321 set consist? HELP PLEASE!
Posted by FEClionel on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:42 PM
Hey there,
I don't have a copy of a 1956 catalog or a book that lists the consist of the 1956 Lionel Lackawanna freight set. I was wondering if anybody could help me out!
Thanks everyone!!!
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Posted by Dr.Fu-Manchu on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:17 PM
FEClionel, The [}:)] Doctor is in !!! I checked my Greenberg book on post war sets. The
set you are refering to was made in 1955. It was listed as #2234W or A-24. I t was O
gauge and was listed at $59.95 retail. Contents as follows: 2321 gray Lackawanna F-M; 3662 oper.milk car; 6511 brown pipe car; 6462-125 red gondola with barrels;6464-300 Rutland boxcar; 6417 Pennsylvania port-hole cabboose; eight curved and five
straight track; and a UCS Uncoupling /operation section. A note says this was the third,
last and most scarce of the Lackawanna sets and only one of two sets to contain the
Rutland boxcar. Price listed in 1994 ed. was $1500 VG and $2500 LN. Hope this helps you.

Till My Next Missive, I Remain The Humble, Yet Strangly [}:)] Doctor !!!
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Posted by Chris F on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:31 PM
Doctor,

My TM Books source indicates the same details for the set rolling stock, but indicates the set was #2243W, "The High and the Mighty". Typo?

Chris
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Posted by Dr.Fu-Manchu on Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:58 AM
Chris, The [}:)] Doctor is in !!! With out a catalog from 1955 to go by, I can't say if the TM
books listing is a typo or not. I myself have TM books & Greenburg books, But I have
more faith in the Greenburg books because they are updated and seem to have more
experts. But this my humble opinion only. Perhaps someone who has the catalog can
clear the question up.

Till My Next Missive, I Remain The Humble, Yet Strangly[}:)] Doctor !!!
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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:32 AM
I had alway assumed that the numbers for sets and for individual models were disjoint. If that is true, the set number would not be 2243, since that is the number of the 1955 Santa Fe F3.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 27, 2004 9:49 AM
I am looking, at this moment, at an original 1955 Lionel catalog and
on pages 26-27 the set you are asking about is displayed along with
an assortment of cars. There is no set number or set price listed in the
catalog, but it does list the diesels as "each $39.95"

There is also a paragraph below the engine write up/description that
says " Lionel 'O' Sets with Locomotive, Cars, lots and lots of Track,
Lockon, Lubricant, Uncoupling and unloading section and Instruction
Book start as low as $39.95."

The write up continues on the same page in a different caption......

"THESE LIONEL CARS IN FAIRBANKS-MORSE OUTFITS LOOK REAL
...ACT REAL!

In real life, the Fairbanks-Morse locos carry strings on rainbow-colored
freight cars from many lines. And so it is with your Lionel model...with this
important Lionel plus! Lionel freight cars actually doo your trackside work
by remote control! The milk car has an attendant who brings out cans at
the push of a button. The twin dump car ejects its cargo automatically!
The barrel car - now a bright yellow - is equipped with a trusty trainman -
who is always ready to deliver barrels for you by remote control!

For eye-catching color, you can't beat the new red, white and blue striped
State of Maine box car with "Bangor and Aroostock "(sic) nameplate; or the
handsome yellow and green Rutland box car - both new-in-1955!

And what could be more true-to-life than the brand new Evans Auto Loader
...with 4 miniature automobiles aboard. Above all, don't miss the unique new
"bay window" caboose! They are now all at your dealer's with all the other
terrific Lionel cars - some in Virginian, others in Lackawanna outfits - all
available at advantageous Lionel complete set prices!

Save by getting a complete "O" Set pulled by the FAIRBANKS-MORSE. Sets
include locomotive, cars, lots of straight track, UCS remote control track un-
coupling and unloading section, lockon, lubricant, and instruction book. "

The cars pictures are...

* 6464 State of Maine box car (red, white, blue w/ B&A sub markings)
* 3562 ATSF Barrel Unloader gondola (yellow)
* 6464 Rutland box car (yellow over green)
* 3662 Automatic Milk Car box car (red over white)
* 6511 Flat Car w/ logs (red)
* 3359 TwinDump car (black w/ unloading bin and coal)
* 6414 Evans Auto Loader car (red w/ 1 4dr taxi (red), 1 2dr coupe (blue), 1 4dr sedan
(yellow) and 1 2dr convertible (white)
* 6517 Bay Window caboose (red Lionel Lines)

The locos listed are...

* 2331 Fairbanks-Morse "Virginian" ("TrainMaster" designation was not used here)
* 2321 Fairbanks-Morse "Lackawanna" " " " " " "

"...with Diesel Horns and MAGNE-TRACTION"

" *Superbly-detailed reproduction of the 2400HP Fairbanks-Morse Diesel."
"*Two setarate worm-drive motors with ball-thrust bearings."
"*Zinc die-cast motor housing, triple thread steel worm shaft with bronze worm gear."
"*Independently-operated horn for constant pitch and intensity! Battery inserts
easily in understructure."

I hope this is of some help to you in your research.
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Posted by FEClionel on Friday, August 27, 2004 11:57 PM
THANKS SO MUCH!!!
Thats the info I've been looking to find for some time. I found a 2321 with the barrrel car, mil car and caboose at a garage sale and figured it was a set but now I know! I'm now looking to obtain the remaining pieces! Thanks so much for all the help. I think I need to find a 1955/56 catalog to take a look at this set myself!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:56 AM
FECLionel;

The information that I copied to you comes from the 1955
catalog. This set does not appear in the 1956 catalog. The
specific infor is enclosed in quotation marks and is exactly
the way it is printed in the catalog copy. I also have a 1955
dealer's catalog (printed on pulp paper and in "book" for-
mat rather than the "long" format. The in formation is the
same, just the illustrations are not in color specific to the
items.
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Posted by FEClionel on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:27 AM
SO was this consist ever a real set...It seems kinda large for a factory set?!*
* 2321 Lackawanna FM
* 6464 State of Maine box car
* 3562 ATSF Barrel Unloader gondola * 6464 Rutland box car
* 3662 Automatic Milk Car box car
* 6511 Flat Car w/ logs
* 3359 TwinDump car
* 6414 Evans Auto Loader car
* 6517 Bay Window caboose
I have purchased all of these cars and it is an impressive set! Any history would be nice!


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