Hey guys I have a complete set of a Lionel train, or atleast I believe. I dont want to take anything out of its newspaper wrap, knowing me I'd damage something so I just found the Engine car and got it out.
I need help knowing how much it should be worth, on the engine it has the # 1666 and on the bottom it says "Lionel (027)"
Can anyone give me a really rough estimate of the lowest and max this set could go for?
to be honest your best bet is to unwrap everything so we know what you have but better yet goto ebay and click advance search and put in what you have and click on completed auctions and it will gove you an idea what they are selling for condition thou is everything on these. and doubt by unwrapping these you will damage them.
and pics would help a lot but to put pics up here you need to goto a host site like www.photobucket.com and then paste the link in here. This site doesn't suport photos on there own.
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A 1666 is a Postwar 2-6-2 steamer made in 1946 and 1947. Depending on condition and type of tender it is valued at $37 to $140 by Greenberg which is usually priced high.
Best bet is to check Lionel on E-Bay to se what the going rate is.
Bill T.
while wrapping trains (directly) in newspaper is quite common, it really isn't a good idea. Newspaper has a very high acid content, ahd the ink can rub off onto your trains. In one extreme case of which I am aware, the newspaper bonded itself to the train, and could not be removed.
If you wish to use newspaper, it's a good idea to take some plastic bags, and make a few holes in them so moisture cannot be trapped. Then put the trains into the plastic bags (don't seal them), and then you can wrap them in newspaper. I have trains that were put away over thirtyfive yeats ago, and when occasionally examined, show no ill effect.
"O-27 Gauge" is the name Lionel gave to the lower priced sets that contained track making a 27 inch circle. ("O" Gauge is aprox. 31 inches) Some sets can be valuable and most were Great runners.
The "1666" locomotive is a die-cast model based on the New York Central Hudson outline. It first appeared in 1938 in 4 train sets and was in production and cataloged through the 1942 Catalog. It re-appeared in 1946 only, was not cataloged in 1947, but was re-born in 1948 as the "2026".
The pre-war version had black rim drivers. The 1946 version had nickel (silver) rim drive wheels. If the four digit numbers on the side of the cars start with 26-- it is a pre-World War II set. If the car numbers start with 24-- it's 1946.
Don U. TCA 73-5735
"The pre-war version had black rim drivers"
I don't recall ever seeing one with black rim drivers. The prewar 1666 loco I have out has nickle rims, as does the one pictured in the price guide I checked.
cwburfle "The pre-war version had black rim drivers" I don't recall ever seeing one with black rim drivers. The prewar 1666 loco I have out has nickle rims, as does the one pictured in the price guide I checked.
I think your right.
Lionel ran the O-27 locomotives with cast drivers, 1664, 1666, 1668, 1688, and 1689, no applied nickel rims. A quick check of my 1668, 1688, 1662, and 1664 confirm this. I checked my "O" gauge engines of this era and they had the nickel rims applied, 224, 225, 226, 227, 763. I no longer have a 1666 but it had no rim cast wheels.
The Lionel 1938 catalog shows no nickel rims on the 1666 but following catalogs DO show applied nickel rims to the 1666 only in O-27 gauge. The TCA Lionel book showes only the 1938 gray version, no applied rims. It looks like the change to applied rims on the 1666 happened sometime in 1939 or later. Did Lionel have problems with the 6 wheel drive or was the added cost for appearence?
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