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TMCC designer leaves Lionel ??

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:43 PM
Gosh Neil, I wasn't being Zealous about anything (train manufacturer related), just pointing out an appearance, as it appears to me. I surely cannot be wrong about how I perceive things to be (after all they are my perceptions), I may be wrong about the way things are, but never the way I perceive them.

BTW, I feel MTH has done more for the hobby since 1994 than Lionel (yeah, I think DCS is a single technical advancement that far surpasses those thumbtackless couplers, wireless tethers, and Rail sounds). But I’d bet you’d refute that too, and that’s OK by me. Like you said, you’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine.
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Posted by 3railguy on Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:57 PM
Neil Dangerfield just gets no respect.
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Posted by nblum on Thursday, July 22, 2004 4:08 PM
"Like you said, you’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine."

Indeed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 5:06 PM
No disrespect was intended to Neil. In person I'm sure everyone is 100% more genuine than is perceive on this teletype communications gadgetry.

And I'll add that I have no agenda, I like Lionel as well as K-Line and MTH. After all, my Santa Fe TMCC crane is one of my favorite pieces of equipment in which Lionel surely subcontracted MTH to build;)

Now, if I just had that K-Line cruise for my new K-Line Allegheny.
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Posted by 3railguy on Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:23 PM
QUOTE: And I'll add that I have no agenda, I like Lionel as well as K-Line and MTH. After all, my Santa Fe TMCC crane is one of my favorite pieces of equipment in which Lionel surely subcontracted MTH to build;)


Rod, LOL. The only Lionel cranes MTH has made are the Lionel cranes that MTH copied.
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Posted by garyseven on Friday, July 23, 2004 4:58 PM
Although I rarely agree with him, I have really no problems with Neil or his posts.
1) He speaks his mind and sticks to his story
2) I think he really believes what he writes and writes what he believes
3) He has a vast knowlege of his subjects (Usually Lionel and TMCC)
4) Although he structures his arguments to. shall we say, lean a certain direction, I don't think he has ever created any facts to support his point of view
5) He's consistant informative and entertaining - just keep a nerf bat handy to beat the computer monitor when neccessary. ;)

So, like he needs help or support from this big dumb guy who plays with trains - there it is.

Now did anyone hear that Lou Kovach is no longer working at Lionel?!?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 23, 2004 6:43 PM
garyseven, you crack me up!
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Posted by nblum on Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:54 AM
Someone I trust has confirmed for me that Lou Kovach is no longer working at Lionel. That does not mean he will not be working in the field of toy train electronics, nor does it mean he will be working for one of Lionel's competitors. In time, it will be clear who he is working with and on what. Sorry to be mysterious but I am sworn to secrecy on the details :). Based upon prior performance, everyone will be happy with the final products that come out, is my guess.
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Posted by ChiefEagles on Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:32 AM
Thanks Neil. Update us when you can speak without breaking confindences.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:53 PM
to nblum....

You bash me as saying this was "my forum". I never said that. As a matter of fact you bashed a lot of people here and accused them of saying things that they never said like Spanky and others. I know that what I write is seen by everyone and I try to get along with everyone. I DON'T try to come off as a know it all or high handed and an authority on everything here. I just post my views and ask questions so I can LEARN. I think that a lot of people here just want to LEARN and not get beat down for saying something. I don't want to see anybody lose their job. I don't want to see any train company go out of business. I just want to know things about the trains. I work for a living and know what it's like to need money to live. I don't have jillions to spent on trains or anything else. I do
think you should take it easyand let people talk. It looks like your pals over on the OGR forum are even beating on you for your attitude towards others.

Any way, enough flaming, I wanted to thank the other people here for at least being nice enough to let me post and say my piece. That's the way it should work.

BTW......It's CTT's forum ..... Not anyone else's. Thanks CTT.
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Posted by nblum on Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:00 PM
The people beating on me on the OGRR Forum have agendas of their own, which I won't trouble you with. They don't worry me in the least. They have their opinions and I have mine. No amount of personal abuse or character assassination will deter me from expressing my opinions in a civil and frank manner. I hope you would do the same.

Nothing would bother me more than others not feeling free to express their opinions because of fear of my response. So I apologize if my tone or comments had that effect on you. Nonetheless, what I am doing is sharing my knowledge and information, which you are endorsing, no?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:23 PM
My only contribution to this topic is to just point out the obvious & what we all should already know:

It's extremely easy to read a tone into a posting that the author did not intend it to have. And that's certainly what happened in this thread.

That said, everyone get out your Nerf bat & start hitting each other. That should lower the tensions [;)] [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:45 PM
Well, I see that Melvin locked the thread on the OGR forum which is his typical censorship, especially when it comes to "offending" his advertisers. Neil, what you're saying is right on!!!!! Allan Miller is just being his usual pompus self, don't pay any attention to him.

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Posted by eZAK on Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:17 PM
Here is my Two cents, wether you like it or not.

I find it odd how people interpet emotions, meanings, & expressions from the writen word.

This is NOT a group of guys sitting around discussing trains.
This IS a group of guys hidding in the shadows passing anonymous secret notes around.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 26, 2004 2:55 PM
Guys,

Please relax about all this. Email is a difficult medium sometimes, and we all write things from time to time that turn out to have a tone to them that was never intended.

I saw Lou K. last Thursday evening at the LCCA convention. Whatever his arrangement was with Lionel, it has run its course. Had I known this was a hot topic, I would have asked him specifics. Lou and his wife were at the convention with the guys from the Chicagoland Lionel Club, which was set up at the convention and ran the train "drag races."

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 26, 2004 5:27 PM
I read a while back on a string how one member was starting trouble and had a history. Someone let everyone know of the person's reputation. All of the members on that string ignored what he said. Everyone ignored him beacuse of his reputation. He stopped acting that way when he saw he was being ignored. Why stoop to someonelse's level?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 26, 2004 7:57 PM
My post was not directed towards anyone. It does seem that some things sound negative or can be taken the worng way. I found the string a little later on in the posting, but we should be nice to each other. Smiles are free!! [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:38 PM
If certain posters know all the facts, how come they have to make corrections to their post so often[?] Let's face it, almost NOBODY knows the all the FACTS. Even an expert like me. [:D]

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