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GG- 1
Posted by J. Daddy on Friday, August 24, 2007 9:42 AM

Gents,

I just found a GG-1 made by Lionel, I want to say made in the late 80's or early 90's. Its been sitting for a few (lots of dust on the box). Its dark green with a solid gold stripe, road no. 4907 stk#6-18313. Can any body tell a bit about her? What do you think she is worth? This one is probably destined to be a shelf Princess, with only Christmas tree laps in her future...Is this one a good runner?

Thanks,

J. Daddy

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Posted by sir james I on Friday, August 24, 2007 10:20 AM
18313 GG1 greenburg says 1996 $345.00 new.(2006 book)

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, August 24, 2007 10:29 AM

Sorta looks like this: Big Smile [:D]

This particular model of the GG1 is not to scale.  Mine has Lionel TMCC, but it does not have rail sounds.  It does not have traction tires and therefore it has trouble on grades if the track is not steel for the magnitraction to work.  It has always ran good and looks nice on my layout.

I stole, er purchased it on Ebay for less than $225.

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Posted by J. Daddy on Friday, August 24, 2007 10:47 AM

Boy what a beaut! I have not pulled her out of the box yet, the pentagraphs are not attached. Is this a tricky opperation.... No rail sounds, bummer, not even a horn or whistle? sounds like a candidate for a sound system.

 Steel track eh? I will make a note of it, don't have any O guage track, just O-27. What is the minimum radius for her? Which track should I stay clear of?

Thanks for the help,

J. Daddy 

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Posted by cnw1995 on Friday, August 24, 2007 11:03 AM
The pantagraphs should just press on top. I've run one on 027 curves so you should be all set no matter what you choose - clean it up and run it!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 24, 2007 11:24 AM
027 is good for magnetraction. It is tubular steel. The GG1 is a wonderfull engine, at the top of the charts. I have two myself, not Lionel, however.
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Posted by sulafool on Friday, August 24, 2007 7:43 PM
Buckeye, does your GG1 have a horn or noisemaker of any kind? I recently bought an 8150 and was somewhat surprised that it was silent--just wondering if there are any retrofits other than some electronic gewgaws?
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Posted by Smoke Stack Lightnin' on Friday, August 24, 2007 10:32 PM

I have a Penn Central and the Gold mint set GG-1's from that same era.  No horn, but excellent pullers and lots of growl!  Too fun for the shelf.  With some common sense TLC they'll be around after the both of us are gone!  Although I like bells & whistles, it's always good to go conventional from time to time.  If your engine has Keystone decals, be very careful with oil or grease cutter type cleaning agents, as they will destroy the decals!

Enjoy!

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:03 AM

 sulafool wrote:
Buckeye, does your GG1 have a horn or noisemaker of any kind? I recently bought an 8150 and was somewhat surprised that it was silent--just wondering if there are any retrofits other than some electronic gewgaws?

My GG1 does not have any sounds.

I looked into installing a sound board and speaker, maybe with TAS, several years ago.  If I remember correctly, I was informed that there was not enough room for the sound system in this unit. 

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Posted by PhilaKnight on Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:37 PM

My Pop bought me one brand new for passing the 10th grade. I did'nt have TMCC at the time so it didn't get much run time maybe 3hrs tops. Just started running her alot when I built my layout and I even forgot it had TMCC. A little disappointed with it after you are used to the whole shabang of sounds and working couplers. And there is denfinitly not alot of room for a upgade to sound. Noticed when running it in TMCC mode she it a little slugish in responding and seems stiff on throttle controls. Neat thing is the instructions say you can power her by the pantograms.

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Posted by J. Daddy on Monday, August 27, 2007 12:23 PM

Just pulled this one out of the box, it sat on the factory shelf for 10 years mint, have not bought any lionel for over 20 yrs, but this one I could not pass up for 150.00. Runs like a champ and really pulls the cars, must weigh close to 10 lbs! I don't have the TMCC, but I did notice it had directional lighting. I have always wanted a GG-1, and this will fit the bill for pulling the Christmas box cars my wife and I have collected over the past 12 years. Like my friend said its OLD SCHOOL and its cool...  but if I want to upgrade there has to be an after market sound sytem that will work?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 27, 2007 1:19 PM

J. Daddy,
It really depends on how much space is under the shell.  Since yours does not have TMCC, there maybe enough space for a sound card and speaker... your best bet would be to contact Mike at TAS... Train America Studios...

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Posted by lionelsoni on Monday, August 27, 2007 4:19 PM

Speaking of directional lighting, there is a very simple way to get it in a traditional universal-motor, e-unit locomotive, like most postwar locomotives.  All you do is disconnect the headlight wire from the pickup bus and connect it to one of the motor brush terminals.  (If it doesn't light in the proper direction, move it to the other brush.)  Leave the shell of the headlight socket connected to the frame of the locomotive.  You don't have to add any components at all.

This method has the very slight drawback that the headlight lamp will glow very dimly when it should be off.  However, from, outside the locomotive, this is almost impossible to notice.

Bob Nelson

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