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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, June 23, 2006 6:08 PM
GULF
MOBILE
&
OHIO

GULF
MOBILE
&
NORTHERN
Streamlined Sleeping Cars
by Al

The GM&N predecessor to the merged Mobile and Ohio and Gulf Mobile and Northern that became the Gulf Mobile & Ohio became the first railroad in the South to operate lightweight stream-lined trains the famous REBELS.
The three car REBELS designed by Industrial designer Otto Kuhler were constructed by American Car & Foundry and entered service July 29, 1935 between Jackson, Tennessee and New Orleans Louisiana a distance of 488 miles. Some railroad historians describe the REBELS as ZEHYRS minus the Stainless steel and articulation. The results of Otto Kuhler's efforts were truly streamlined trains. For powering the little REBEL trains they turned to Alco who supplied two MacIntosh and Seymour 660 hp diesels for the two train sets. The lead unit in each REBEL contained a shovelnose control cab with engine room containing the 660-hp diesel and main generator, 15' Railway Post Office Compartment and Baggage Room with train heat boiler. The next car in each REBEL consist was a 62 seat divided coach with Buffet. The forward section of the divided car the colored section contained a pair restrooms and coach seating for 24. The car entrance was next separated from the two passenger compartments by doors. To the rear of the car entrance was another pair of restrooms followed by the white seating area with its 38 coach seats with a small buffet at the rear of the car on the right hand side. The last car in each REBEL consist was a sleeper lounge Observation. Each sleeper lounge observation began with a large Women's restroom on the left with a Stateroom directly behind it with its own private bathroom annex. Next there were three sections on either side of a center aisle followed by a large men's restroom, Next was the entrance to the car followed by the Lounge Observation that seated 18. There was an extra 71 revenue seat coach numbered 374 operated in the northbound REBEL each evening between New Orleans and Jackson, Mississippi returning in the southbound REBEL in the morning. The Stateroom in each Observation was larger than a Compartment but smaller in size than a Drawing Room and the space charge was calculated between a Compartment and Drawing Room.
Each of the REBELS was delivered painted in a Red and Silver scheme.

352 Shovelnose 660 hp Diesel Electric Cab Unit with 15' Railway Post Office Compartment Baggage Car

372 62 Revenue Seat Divided Coach Buffet

395 1 Stateroom 6 Section 18 Seat Lounge Observation

SECOND CONSIST

353 Shovelnose 660 hp Diesel Electric Cab Unit 15' Railway Post Office Compartment Baggage Car

373 62 Revenue Seat Divided Coach

396 1 Stateroom 6 Section 18 Seat Lounge Observation Car

The GM&N began a new expanded REBEL service on January 16, 1938. On that date a new two car REBEL ran north from Mobile, Alabama to Union, Mississippi where it connected with the northbound REBEL to Jackson, Tennessee, The next mornings southbound Rebel would drop a car at Union to be forwarded by the third power unit to Mobile. The new REBEL service consisted of one Shovelnose Cab Power 15' RPO Baggage Unit number 354 identical to the two earlier REBEL power units and two 40 seat Divided Coaches with 6 Sections 380 and 381. Each REBEL was then basically a four-car train between New Orleans and Jackson, Miss. and from Union, Miss. to Jackson Tenn.
On September 13, 1940 the merger of the Gulf Mobile & Northern and Mobile & Ohio Railroads took place creating the Gulf Mobile & Ohio.
The new GM&O introduced the GULF COAST REBEL between East St. Louis and Mobile on October 29, 1940. Each of the new GULF COAST REBELS consisted of a new 2,000 hp Alco DL-109 passenger diesel unit and five streamlined heavy-weight cars. All streamlining on each consists first four cars was accomplished in the roads own Jackson, Tenn. Shops. The two Pullman cars that brought up the markers of each consist were streamlined to match by Pullman's Calumet shops. All cars and the power were painted in the Red and Silver paint scheme. The two Pullman cars were DEEP SOUTH and SHOW ME, interiors of these cars were arranged with 8 Sections 1 Drawing Room and 3 Double Bedrooms. Pullman slightly rounded off one end of these Pullmans to give the trains a finished look.
The three original REBELS were placed in East St. Louis - New Orleans service beginning April 5, 1942. One of the newer cars of 1938 #381 was remodeled to 6 Section 1 Stateroom 17 seat Lounge and served as the third Observation. This cars one end was given a finished appearance similar to the DEEP SOUTH and SHOW ME. All three of the streamlined REBEL sleeper Lounge Observations received names at that time 381 SMOKELESS CITY, 395 OL" 'MAN RIVER, and 396 KING COTTON.
On May 31, 1947 the GM&O merged with the Chicago and Alton better known as just the Alton. The merger brought the beautiful Red and Maroon paint scheme of the Alton to the GM&O who quickly adapted this paint scheme as there own.
In 1950 the GM&O received four streamlined sleeping cars from American Car & Foundry. Two of the new sleeping cars were assigned to Chicago - St. Louis overnight service and two were assigned to the GULF COAST REBEL trains. Originally these cars were to have been named for States served by the railroad but instead were named for persons who played an important role in the growth of the GM&O.

4 SECTION 8 ROOMETTE 1 COMPARTMENT 3 DOUBLE BEDROOM Sleeping Cars American Car & Foundry July 1950 Plan: 9012 Lot: 3208 (Built for and assigned to GULF COAST REBEL etc.)

CULVER WHITE (ILLINOIS)

JUDGE MILTON BROWN (MISSOURI)

SAMUEL KING TIGRETT (FLORIDA)

TIMOTHY B. BLACKSTONE (LOUISIANA)

These last four cars represent the only new streamlined full size sleeping cars ever owned by the GM&O although they were actually ordered by the Alton prior to the merger.

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 23, 2006 8:20 PM
G'day!

My finale for this day . . .


GM&O #3053 Coach (courtesy: www.trainweb.org - foto: unknown)


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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:10 AM
G'day!

Time to start over again wtih my NOSTALGIA series . . . all designed to get some CLASSIC TRAINS dialogue begun - that IS the idea of the FORUM and this THREAD!!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #1

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out …….

Many of the passenger railroads we’ve heard of and perhaps traveled aboard, had their start up in the 1800’s and early 1900’s. Check out these names of perhaps the best known:

Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe (1863)
Atlantic Coast Line (1900)
Baltimore & Ohio (1827) #1
Boston & Maine (1835)
Canadian Pacific (1881)
Chesapeake & Ohio (1867)
Chicago & Northwestern (1859)
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (1855)
Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul (“The Milwaukee Road,” 1874)
Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific (1866)
Erie (1859)
Great Northern (1889)
Illinois Central (1851)
Kansas City Southern (1900)
Lehigh Valley (1855)
Louisville & Nashville (1850)
Missouri Pacific (1879)
New York Central (1914, although the formal adoption of that name came later)
New York, Chicago & St. Louis (“Nickel Plate Road,” 1881)
Norfolk & Western (1881)
Northern Pacific (1864)
Pennsylvania Railroad (1846)
Seaboard Air Line (1900)
Southern Pacific (1884)
Southern Railway (1887)
Union Pacific (1862)
Wabash (1877)
Western Pacific (1903)

[source:] The American Passenger Train

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]


ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:36 AM
G'day!

Here's a Pix for #1 on the above list . . .

ATSF F7A #300C (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)


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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:45 AM
Atchison
Topeka
&
Santa Fe
(AT&SF)
Streamlined Dome Cars
by Al

The Santa Fe owned a total of 20-dome cars, 6-short domes from Pullman Standard and 14-big domes from the Budd Company.
The Santa Fe went daily with the SUPER CHIEF in February 1948 with new sleeping cars and new sleeper Observations for four of the five consists.
At the end of 1950 the Santa Fe once again added new cars to the SUPER CHIEF receiving 7-new 36 seat dining cars 600-606 in November-December 1950. In December the Santa Fe received 6-Pleasure Domes with the famous Turquoise dining room numbers 500 - 505. These cars were coupled directly behind the new diners and the Turquoise room located in the forward part of the Pleasure domes was served from the dining car. During peak travel periods it served as extra dining space for twelve. At other times the Turquoise room was available for private luncheon or dinner parties. Many an evening the Turquoise rooms served as private cocktail lounges for Hollywood stars and their guests or captains of fortune 500 companies. This Turquoise room was located in the short end on the main floor and this was always the front of the car coupled to the dining car ahead. Beneath the dome of these cars was a lounge seating ten with bar. In the larger room at the rear of the car on the main level was a lounge with seating for 18. A desk and chair was tucked behind the stairway leading to the dome level.
The dome seating was unique to these dome cars, on each side in the center of the dome was four swiveling parlor seats revolving a full 360 degrees. At the front of the dome and the rear of the dome on each side of the aisle was a pair of seats. The two pair of seats at the rear of the dome faced rearward an unusual arrangement not found on any other short domes, except for those seats in the UP Dome Dining cars where half of the eighteen seats faced rearward at the tables. This gave the Santa Fe pleasure domes a seating capacity of 16. No other short domes built for any railroad seated this few, not even the UP Dome diners who seated 18 at tables in the domes.
These six cars were operated only in the SUPER CHIEFS and never ventured to any other Santa Fe train, although it is believed they operated on occasional business train specials on rare occasions as there was a spare if the SUPER CHIEFS operated on time.
When ordered from Pullman Standard the cars were to have PLAZA series names but were delivered with numbers only 500-505.
The intended names of these cars were as follows.

500 – PLAZA ACOMA

501 – PLAZA LAGUNA

502 – PLAZA LAMY

503 – PLAZA SANTA FE

504 – PLAZA TAOS

505 – PLAZA ZUNI

All six of the pleasure domes were sold to Amtrak in 1971 and were renumbered 9350 – 9355.
In 1954 the Santa Fe received 14 Big Domes from Budd between January and May 1954. The first eight delivered 506-513 featured 57 coach seats and an 18 seat lounge on the upper glassed in level and beneath the dome in the center of the cars lower level was a Buffet and lounge seating 28 with a double bedroom serving as quarters for the Courier Nurse.
The Santa Fe assigned one each to the Chicago – Oklahoma City CHICAGOAN - KANSAS CITYAN.
The other six of these Big domes were assigned to the EL CAPITAN train sets one per consist operating between Chicago and Los Angeles daily in each direction. These domes would be transferred to the CHIEF beginning in July 1956 when the EL CAPITAN became America’s first Hi-Level trains. These cars remained in the CHIEF until that train was discontinued in 1968. At that time three were transferred to the TEXAS CHIEF and operated between Chicago and Houston replacing that trains lounge cars.
The other six-Big domes delivered in 1954 were for a new train the SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF between Chicago and San Francisco. This train inaugurated in May 1954 operated by the southern mainline the only CHIEF train operating on this line. The Big domes built for the SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF were identical to those built for the EL CAPITAN, CHICAGOAN - KANSAS CITYAN on the upper or dome level 57 coach type seats and 18 seats arranged in a lounge. The lower level of these cars featured a Buffet and lounge with only ten seats. A twelve-crew dormitory occupied the remainder of the lower level between the cars six-wheel trucks. These cars remained in SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF service until Amtrak discontinued the train.
Big dome cars 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513, 550, 551, 552, 553, 554, and 555 were sold to Auto-Train becoming their 540, 520, 521, 522, 523, 541, 524, 512, 513, 514, 515, 510, and 511 respectively. They wore the Red – White – Purple from 1972 until sold at bankruptcy auction in December 1981.
The Santa Fe retained 506 for its business fleet, being renumbered AT&SF 60 in 974. After the merger into the BN #60 was renumbered BNSF 31 in 1999 and the name BAY VIEW was applied to the sides of the car at that time.

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:42 AM
G'day!

Now for the 2nd Pix on the list . . . .

ACL F7 #531 (credit: Robert West)


Later! [tup]

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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:05 AM
ATLANTIC
COAST
LINE
Streamlined Sleeping Cars
by Al

The Atlantic Coast Line owned a total of 54 lightweight streamlined sleeping cars. Another 29 lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars were owned by the PRR, FEC, and RF&P and assigned to ACL trains between New York City and Florida. Two of the ACL owned sleeping cars were constructed for assignment to the DIXIELAND a Midwest - Florida streamliner. The ACL not only purchased new lightweight streamlined sleeping cars but also purchased several used lightweight streamlined sleeping cars from other roads, notably the C&O and NYC. Notable streamlined trains of the ACL assigned lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars were the CHAMPIONS, and the winter season all Pullman FLORIDA SPECIAL. Other ACL trains were equipped with some lightweight streamlined sleeping cars as well such as the VACATIONER, and MIAMIAN in later years.
It would be the fall of 1949 before the first lightweight streamlined sleeping cars began arriving on the ACL. These sleeping cars were owned by not only the ACL but by the FEC, RF&P, and PRR whose lines the ACL Florida streamliners transited enroute between New York and Florida. The PRR was responsible for the ACL trains between New York and Washington where they traveled behind the famous PRR GG-1 Electric Locomotives. From Washington to Richmond the ACL trains traveled over the double track mainline of the RF&P before gaining home rails. The ACL double track mainline stretched from Richmond, Virginia to Jacksonville, Florida and was the fastest track on the east coast between those points. Trains were able to operate at speeds of 100 mph if necessary to make up time and to assure on time arrivals, this exceptional track work with ATC installed was completed in the late 1940's following WW II. South of Washington diesels were assigned to the trains to and from Florida and came from a pool of ACL, RF&P, and FEC EMD E passenger units. The ACL CHAMPIONS were originally all coach streamliners but received heavyweight sleeping cars before WW II. The train names were changed to TAMIAMI CHAMPIONS and departed both northbound and southbound as two separate trains. The TAMIAMI CHAMPION #1 and #2 operated between New York and Florida's East Coast to Miami. The TAMIAMI CHAMPION #91 and #92 operated between New York and Tampa - St. Petersburg. The new trains were inaugurated May 2, 1941 southbound and May 4, 1941 northbound. Between June 6, 1941 and July 15, 1941 Pullman shopped seventeen heavyweight Pullmans and gave them a special paint job for service in the TAMIAMI CHAMPIONS. This paint scheme was silver with Black trucks and underbody, Purple letter boards with gold leaf lettering PULLMAN centered in that letter board. The heavyweight sleeping cars repainted and assigned to the new TAMIAMI CHAMPIONS follow:

10 SECTION 1 DRAWING ROOM 2 COMPARTMENT HEAVYWEIGHT SLEEPING CARS

CAPE COD

CAPE FERELLO

CAPE FORTUNA

CAPE LOOKOUT

CAPE SABLE

FORT AMADOR

FORT DODGE

10 SECTION 2 COMPARTMENT 1 DRAWING ROOM HEAVYWEIGHT SLEEPING CARS

ROLLINS COLLEGE

SOUTHERN COLLEGE

VASSAR COLLEGE

WASHINGTON COLLEGE

8 SECTION 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM HEAVYWEIGHT SLEEPING CARS

CLOVER BANK

CLOVER BLOOM

CLOVER CREEK

6 SECTION 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM HEAVYWEIGHT SLEEPING CARS
POPLAR SUMMIT

POPLAR TRAIL

POPLAR VALLEY

The ACL assigned the sleeping cars to the TAMIAMI CHAMPIONS as follows:

TAMIAMI CHAMPION
#1 - #2

POPLAR SLEEPER
New York City
Miami

CLOVER SLEEPER
New York City
Miami

CAPE or FORT SLEEPER
Washington
Miami

TAMIAMI
CHAMPION
#91 - #92

CAPE or FORT SLEEPER
New York City
St. Petersburg

COLLEGE SLEEPER
New York City
Tampa

After a disastrous wartime accident the ACL dropped the name TAMIAMI CHAMPIONS and thereafter the trains were known as the EAST COAST and WEST COAST CHAMPIONS. Sleeping cars returned to the WEST COAST CHAMPION following WW II and lightweight streamlined sleeping cars were assigned beginning December 16, 1949. The EAST COAST CHAMPION remained Coach only until the spring of 1950 when it received sleeping cars from FLORIDA SPECIAL after that train completed its winter only operational season. The EAST COAST CHAMPION for many years would only carry sleeping cars in the summer season between New York and Miami. The ACL operated both the All Pullman FLORIDA SPECIAL and MIAMIAN winter months between New York and Miami. Another all coach train for many years was the heavyweight VACATIONER between New York and both coasts of Florida.
The All-Pullman FLORIDA SPECIAL did not receive lightweight streamlined sleeping cars until December 16, 1949 winter season the year it became fully streamlined. It is interesting to note that the All Pullman Florida Special was the only streamlined all Pullman All Room train that was never assigned a lightweight streamlined Observation.
The first new lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars assigned to ACL trains were a group of forty-two 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom sleepers delivered by Pullman Standard to the ACL (25), FEC (11), RF&P (4) and PRR (6). All of these cars carried the Purple letter boards of the ACL with the owning roads name displayed. The six PRR cars were built to a slightly different plan then the other three roads 10 - 6 sleepers.

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September - October 1949 Plan: 4140B Lot: 6809 (Built for and assigned initially to the FLORIDA SPECIAL and WEST COAST CHAMPION trains)

ACL
ALACHUA COUNTY

BEAUFORT COUNTY

BERKELEY COUNTY

CHATHAM COUNTY

CLARENDON COUNTY

COLLETON COUNTY

CUMBERLAND COUNTY

DARLINGTON COUNTY

DUVAL COUNTY

EDGECOMBE COUNTY

GLYNN COUNTY

HARNETT COUNTY

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

MARION COUNTY

NASH COUNTY

NASSAU COUNTY

NORTHAMPTON COUNTY

OSCEOLA COUNTY

PINELLAS COUNTY

POLK COUNTY

PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY

PUTNAM COUNTY

SEMINOLE COUNTY

SUMTER COUNTY

WARE COUNTY

FEC

BAHAMIAN

CAPARRA

COLUMBIA

CUBA

HAVANA

HONDURAS

ORIENTE

RF&P

CAROLINE COUNTY

HANOVER COUNTY

SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY

STRATFORD COUNTY

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard October 1949 Plan: 4140 Lot: 6809 (Built for and assigned initially to FLORIDA SPECIAL and WEST COAST CHAMPION trains)

PRR

8345 CHESTER COUNTY

8346 BALTIMORE COUNTY

8347 BUCKS COUNTY

8348 DELAWARE COUNTY

8349 UNION COUNTY

8350 HUDSON COUNTY

Pullman Standard delivered ten sleeping cars with 21 Roomettes in September - October 1949 as well. These cars were owned five by the ACL and two each by the FEC and PRR with the remaining car RF&P owned all carried the Purple letter board of the ACL Florida trains. These cars were initially assigned to the WEST COAST CHAMPION and FLORIDA SPECIAL.

21 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September - October 1949 Plan: 4156 Lot: 6809 (Built for and assigned initially to FLORIDA SPECIAL and WEST COAST CHAMPION trains)

ACL

EDISTO ISLAND

PARRIS ISLAND

ROANOKE ISLAND

ST. SIMONS ISLAND

SULLIVANS ISLAND

RF&P

BYRD ISLAND

FEC

SALVADOR

URUGUAY

21 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September - October 1949 Plan: 4156A Lot: 6809 (Built for and assigned to ACL trains)

PRR

8298 GOVERNORS ISLAND

8299 STATEN ISLAND

In addition the ACL received six BEACH series 6 Double Bedroom Buffet 24 seat Lounge cars with two additional for the FEC and one for the RF&P. These cars were built by American Car & Foundry and delivered in November - December 1949 for ACL Florida service. Unlike Pullman Standard these AC&F built cars had separate lot numbers for each of the roads. These cars were initially assigned to the CHAMPIONS and the winter only FLORIDA SPECIAL.

6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 24 SEAT LOUNGE CARS American Car & Foundry November - December 1949 Plan: 9002 (Built for and assigned to ACL trains)

ACL (Lot: 3090)

MYRTLE BEACH

PASS-A-GRILLE BEACH

PONTE VEDRA BEACH

SEA ISLAND BEACH

VIRGINIA BEACH

WRIGHTSVILLE BEACH

FEC (Lot: 3095)

MAGNOLIA

OLEANDER

RF&P (Lot: 3093)

COLONIAL BEACH

A group of ten cars with a rather odd interior configuration with 14 Roomettes and 2 Drawing Rooms was built for the Florida trains by AC&F and delivered in February - March 1950. Six of these sleeping cars were ACL owned two were PRR owned with one each owned by the RF&P and FEC. These cars were assigned to the WEST COAST CHAMPION and winter only FLORIDA SPECIAL. As with the previously mentioned AC&F built cars they carried different Lot numbers for each road.

14 ROOMETTE 2 DRAWING ROOM SLEEPING CARS American Car & Foundry February - March 1950 Plan: 9006 (Built for and assigned initially to FLORIDA SPECIAL and WEST COAST CHAMPION trains)

ACL (Lot: 3091)

ASHLEY RIVER

CAPE FEAR RIVER

COOPER RIVER

MANATEE RIVER

OGEECHEE RIVER

SUWANEE RIVER

RF&P (Lot: 3094)

FAIRFAX RIVER

FEC (Lot: 3096)

PANAMA

PRR (Lot: 3098)

8359 ANACOSTIA RIVER

8360 HACKENSACK RIVER

The new sleeping cars were assigned that first winter to only two trains the FLORIDA SPECIAL and the WEST COAST CHAMPION. Both of these trains required three sets of equipment to maintain daily operation in both directions. Of the forty-two 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom sleeping cars delivered thirty-nine were assigned to those two trains. Each FLORIDA SPECIAL was assigned eight and each WEST COAST CHAMPION was assigned five. Of the ten 21 Roomette cars delivered six or two per consist were assigned to the FLORIDA SPECIAL and three or one per consist to the WEST COAST CHAMPION. The FLORIDA SPECIAL was assigned two 6 Double Bedroom Bar 24 seat Lounge cars per consist and the WEST COAST CHAMPION was assigned one of these cars per consist this accounted for all nine of these cars built.
The ten 14 Roomette 2 Drawing Room cars were added to both the FLORIDA SPECIAL and WEST COAST CHAMPION trains after their delivery in February - March 1950. Each FLORIDA SPECIAL was assigned two per consist and each WEST COAST CHAMPION consist received one.
After the winter season ended the EAST COAST CHAMPION received Sleeping cars that had operated in the FLORIDA SPECIAL. Each winter the EAST COAST CHAMPION would revert to an All-Coach streamliner with the streamlined sleeping cars returning to the FLORIDA SPECIAL.
In October 1950 the ACL received four 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars from the C&O who had over ordered and had a surplus of these cars. These cars were easily recognizable in whatever ACL train they were in as the Bedrooms were all located in the Middle of the car with five roomettes at each end over the trucks. The cars were assigned COUNTY series names by the ACL as follows.

BRYAN COUNTY originally C&O 2617 CITY OF BECKLEY

DILLON COUNTY originally C&O 2616 CITY OF RONCEVERTE

HALIFAX COUNTY originally C&O 2615 WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS

VOLUSIA COUNTY originally C&O 2618 CITY OF ALDERSON

The ACL having withdrawn the 21 Roomette sleeping cars from the FLORIDA SPECIAL were operating foreign cars in this train with Bedrooms, Compartments and Drawing Rooms as this space was more in demand. By 1961 the ACL had made the decision to rebuild the 14 Roomette 2 Drawing Room Cars to 7 Double Bedroom 2 Drawing Room cars for the FLORIDA SPECIAL. The work on the six ACL owned cars was completed before the 1961-62 winter season and they were renamed in the BIRD series as follows:

New Plan 9018
7 Double Bedroom
2 Drawing Room Sleeping Car Conversions

April 1961

RICE BIRD
originally ACL MANATEE RIVER

July 1961

BLUE BIRD
originally ACL
CAPE FEAR RIVER

HUMMING BIRD
originally ACL
OGEECHEE RIVER

SURF BIRD originally ACL
SUWANEE RIVER

September 1961

HONEY BIRD
Originally ACL
ASHLEY RIVER

October 1961

JAY BIRD
Originally ACL
COOPER RIVER

Having operated off line 4-4-2 sleeping cars in the winter only FLORIDA SPECIAL for a number of years the ACL turned to the used car market to upgrade the FLORIDA SPECIAL for its upcoming 75th anniversary. The NYC sold six prewar streamlined 4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars to the ACL in October 1962 and before entering ACL service the cars were painted and the interiors were remodeled to 4 Compartment 4 Drawing Rooms. The cars were assigned RIVER series names and operated in the FLORIDA SPECIAL winters and CHAMPIONS in the summer. They were assigned two per consist to the FLORIDA SPECIAL.

CAPE FEAR RIVER ex NYC 10024
GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE
Originally NYC IMPERIAL FOREST

KISSIMMEE RIVER
Ex NYC 10031
RIP VAN WINKLE BRIDGE
Originally NYC IMPERIAL FOUNTAIN

MANATEE RIVER
Ex NYC 10029
SUSPENSION BRIDGE
Originally NYC
IMPERIAL ARCH

ORTEGA RIVER
Ex NYC 10022
BAY BRIDGE
Originally NYC
IMPERIAL FALLS

SAVANNAH RIVER
Ex NYC 10021
BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE
Originally NYC
IMPERIAL CASTLE


SUWANEE RIVER
Ex NYC 10025
HIGH BRIDGE
Originally NYC
IMPERIAL MANSION

The ACL merged with long time rival SAL in 1967 and the Seaboard Coast line was born. All former ACL and SAL Sleeping car ownership was transferred to Hamburg Industries in July 1969 and leased back to the SCL for operation.

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:22 AM
G'day!

Here's a Pix for #3 on the list . . . .

B&O The Royal Blue (circa 1940s) (foto credit: unknown)


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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:16 AM
BALTIMORE
&
OHIO
(B&O)
Streamlined Dining & Lounge Cars
by Al

Baltimore & Ohio owned few lightweight streamlined dining and lounge cars, even though an early pioneer in streamlining with the early experimental “Wind splitter” early in the century.
The first two lightweight streamlined dining cars were the two built for the B&O ROYAL BLUE and B&O subsidiary C&A ABRAHAM LINCOLN. The former operated between Jersey City and Washington, D.C. the latter between St. Louis and Chicago. Both trains were eight cars as delivered by American Car & Foundry in 1935. The choice of building materials of the two trains varied as well. The ABRAHAM LINCOLN consist delivered in April 1935 was built of Cor-Ten steel, and entered service on the Alton July 1, 1935. The ROYAL BLUE consist delivered in early June 1935 was constructed of Aluminum with a Cor-Ten steel center frame. Due to the thickness of the aluminum the cars from the two streamliners weighed approximately the same. Later aluminum construction would be lighter in weight than comparable steel cars although it is generally felt the lightest and safest construction was Budd stainless steel shot-welded together.
The ROYAL BLUE entered scheduled service June 24, 1935.
Each of the two streamliners as built featured a single lunch counter –dining car. The cars served as lounge cars during non-meal hours.
The ROYAL BLUE car was numbered 5700 and seated ten at the lunch counter and 32 in the dining area at eight tables for four. The car was trainlined as the fifth car in the eight-car train.
The ABRAHAM LINCOLN car was numbered 5701 and seating was identical to the 5700. The 5701 was trainlined in the same position as the 5700.
The ROYAL BLUE which had added one additional coach in January 1937 was repainted in C&A colors and was renamed the ABRAHAM LINCOLN July 26, 1937. The earlier ABRAHAM LINCOLN was renamed the ANN RUTLEDGE at that time. This gave the ALTON twice-daily round trip daily streamliner service between Chicago and St. Louis.
Sometime between the time they first entered service in 1935 and 1940 the two Lunch counter – dining cars gave up one lunch counter seat as the seat in question was difficult to get in and out of if passengers were seated in the seats on either side.
In 1946 both lunch counter – dining cars were rebuilt to 40-seat dining cars losing the lunch counters at that time.
The cars from these two early streamliners were not retired until 1969.

10-SEAT LUNCH COUNTER 32-SEAT DINING CAR American Car & Foundry April 1935 (Built for and assigned to ABRAHAM LINCOLN later ANN RUTLEDGE)

5701

10-SEAT LUNCH COUNTER 32-SEAT DINING CAR American Car & Foundry June 1935 (Built for and assigned to ROYAL BLUE later transferred to Alton and assigned to ABRAHAM LINCOLN)

5700

Two 64-seat coaches one from the original ROYAL BLUE number 5800 and one from the original ABRAHAM LINCOLN consist number 5803 were rebuilt to Buffet lounge cars. The 5800 was rebuilt to a Buffet 38-seat Lounge car in July 1935 with no change of car number. Two years later in April 1937 B&O Mt. Clair shops rebuilt 5803 to a Buffet 38-seat lounge car again with no change of car number. Both cars received three additional lounge seats in 1946.
The original ABRAHAM LINCOLN Baggage 30’ Railway Post Office car 5751 was rebuilt in 1936 to a Baggage 36-seat coach with no change of number. In 1941 car 5751 was again shopped emerging as a Baggage Bar 8-seat lounge 24-seat lounge car. The car underwent a further remodeling in 1946 to a Baggage Buffet 24-seat Lounge car.
A re-equipped ROYAL BLUE was introduced April 25, 1937 replacing the lightweight streamlined train that entered service June 24, 1935. The B&O Mt. Clare shops streamlined the eight-car heavyweight train. The train offered three feature cars a buffet 52-seat coach 3065 rebuilt from coach 5326. This car had a buffet at one end that passengers could purchase items from and return to their seat to consume. The 3065 operated as the fifth car in the eight-car train.
Car 1075 was a six seat Lunch Counter 36-seat dining car rebuilt from heavyweight 36-seat dining car 1051. The 1075 operated as the sixth-car in the ROYAL BLUE train.
The eighth- car was a buffet 34-seat lounge observation rebuilt from heavyweight coach 5325. The Solarium type observation was a popular place for passengers traveling between Jersey City and Washington. This consist was renamed the COLUMBIAN December 9, 1937 when another streamlined heavyweight train was introduced as the new ROYAL BLUE.
The new eight-car streamlined train operated opposite the COLUMBIAN when one train was southbound the other was northbound.
The fifth, sixth and eighth cars were feature cars of this ROYAL BLUE consist.
The fifth-car 3066 was a 7-seat lunch counter 38-seat coach rebuilt from heavyweight coach 5295.
The sixth car in this ROYAL BLUE consist was a 44-seat dining car 1076 rebuilt from heavyweight 36-seat dining car 1054.
The eighth cars was a buffet 34-seat lounge observation 3301 rebuilt from heavyweight coach 5298. This car was identical to the 3300 then transferred to the COLUMBIAN.
Pullman Standard streamlined 22 heavyweight cars for the two consists of the CAPITOL LIMITED necessary for daily service between Washington and Chicago. The train did carry through sleeping cars beyond its eastern terminal Washington to Jersey City, but the train was assembled and disassembled at Washington in both directions. Besides the 22-cars streamlined by Pullman Standard for the CAPITOL LIMITED the B&O Mt. Clare shops streamlined two matching 36-seat dining cars one for each trains consists. The two dining cars were 1061 MARGARET BRENT and 1062 VIRGINIA DARE.
The four feature cars streamlined by Pullman Standard were the two Baggage 12-Crew Dormitory Buffet 18-seat Lounge cars CAPITOL GARDEN and CAPITOL HILL and the two 1-Drawing Room 3 Compartment Buffet 18-seat Lounge 8-seat Sun Room Observations CAPITOL ARMS and CAPITOL CITY.
The other major route operated by the B&O was the Washington – St. Louis route. The B&O NATIONAL LIMITED was there premier train on this route. In 1940 the B&O streamlined sixteen heavyweight cars and Pullman Standard streamlined twenty-three cars for this service this gave the B&O three complete train sets with a spare Baggage-12-Crew Dormitory-Buffet-18-seat Lounge and one spare 28-seat Dining 12-seat Cocktail Lounge car. The four Baggage 12-Crew Dormitory Buffet 18-seat lounge cars were 1302-1305 rebuilt from heavyweight Baggage-coaches 1417,1419,1423 and 1425 respectively.
The four 28-seat dining 12-seat Cocktail lounge cars were 1077 – 1080 rebuilt from 36-seat dining cars 1036 – 1040 respectively.
The three Sleeper-Buffet Lounge sunroom observations rebuilt by Pullman Standard were CAPITOL ESCORT, PALM ISLANDS and PALM KEY. These cars featured 1 Drawing Room 3 Compartments Buffet 18 seat Lounge 8-seat Sun Room Observations.
On December 19, 1941 just days after the United States entered WW II the B&O extended the COLUMBIAN route from its Jersey City – Washington routing to Jersey City – Chicago as an all coach companion train to the all Pullman CAPITOL LIMITED. As two consists were necessary for this service a number of cars were streamlined or remodeled for this service. The 1300 was remodeled to a Baggage 12-crew dormitory Buffet 18-seat Lounge car ad renumbered 1306. The other COLUMBIAN consist operated with the spare NATIONAL LIMITED car of this type 1302.
Two new 47-seat dining cars were assigned to the two consists of the COLUMBIAN, one was remodeled from 1075 from the April 1937 ROYAL BLUE consist and renumbered 1082, the 1081 was rebuilt and streamlined from heavyweight 36-seat dining car 1050.
Buffet Observation 3300 was renumbered 3303 and the 3302 was rebuilt and remodeled from heavyweight coach 5234.
The B&O built two fully streamlined five-car trains using the chassis, running gear and framing from heavyweight coaches and inaugurated the new CINCINNATIAN’S January 19, 1947 between Baltimore and Cincinnati daily in each direction. Each five car consist operated with two feature cars. The first car in each consist was a Baggage Crew Dayroom Buffet 24-seat Lounge Car. The two cars of this type built for the new streamliners were 1307 EDEN PARK and 1308 HYDE PARK.
The fifth and last car in each consist was a Kitchen Pantry 23-sat dining room 21-seat lounge observation. The observations were beautiful round end type and the entire consists looked to be factory built so well built were the Mt. Clare shop cars. The two Observations were numbered and named 3304 PEEBLES CORNER and 3305 FOUNTAIN SQUARE.
Two all-new eight-car COLUMBIAN train sets entered service in May 1949. The new trains were built by Pullman Standard and became the first dome trains to operate between Baltimore-Washington and Chicago thanks to the clearances enjoyed by the B&O along their route between these cities. Not counting the Strata-Dome Coach in each consist there was three feature cars in each consist.
The first car in each consist was a Baggage 12-Crew Dormitory Buffet 16-seat Coffee Shop car.

BAGGAGE 12-CREW DORMITORY BUFFET 16-SEAT COFFEE SHOP CARS Pullman Standard May 1949 (Built for and assigned to COLUMBIANS)

1350 HARPERS FERRY

1351SILVER SPRING

The fifth car in each new COLUMBIAN consist was a 38-seat Dining car with seating arranged at triangular tables.

38-SEAT DINING CARS Pullman Standard May 1949 (Built for and assigned to COLUMBIANS)

1090 AKRON

1091 PITTSBURGH

The last car in each consist was a Tavern Lounge Observation seating 36 in the tavern followed by a bar and a 28-seat lounge observation.

36-SEAT TAVERN LOUNGE BAR 28-SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard May 1949 (Built for and assigned to COLUMBIANS)

3315 CHICAGO

3316 WASHINGTON

The remaining B&O feature cars were all acquired used from other railroads with the exception of two special RDC-2s. The first of these was a pair of 5-Double Bedroom Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Observations purchased from the C&O in February 1951. These were Blunt end observation cars and were assigned to the AMBASSADOR operating between Baltimore/Washington and Detroit.

7502 DANA originally C&O 2501 SHENANDOAH CLUB

7503 METCALF originally C&O 2505 OHIO RIVER CLUB

Two identical cars were delivered by the C&O to the B&O in March 1951 and these two after repainting were assigned to bring up the markers of the CAPITOL LIMITED.

7500 NAPPANEE originally C&O 2502 TIDEWATER CLUB

7501 WAWASEE originally C&O 2507 WOLVERINE CLUB

The B&O purchased three sleeper buffet lounge observations from the NYC in January 1956. The NYC in the prewar SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED between New York and St. Louis operated these three cars. They became surplus to the NYC needs by 1955 and had seen very little use that year. Each of these cars featured 1 Compartment 1 Drawing Room 2 Double Bedrooms Buffet 25-seat Lounge Observation. The cars originally built in July 1939 were refurbished and repainted before entering B&O service. The B&O assigned the cars to their NATIONAL LIMITEDS between Baltimore and St. Louis. An interesting note is that the B&O retained the same names for the cars they had operated with while in NYC service as they were named for rivers between found along both railroads routes.

7510 GENESEE RIVER originally NYC 10650 GENESEE RIVER

7511 MAUMEE RIVER originally NYC 10651 MAUMEE RIVER

7512 WABASH RIVER originally NYC 10652 WABASH RIVER

The B&O purchased two special Rail Diesel cars that were delivered by Budd in October 1956. They probably most resembled an RDC- 3 than the RDC-2 designation they carried. The forward end of these two cars had a Baggage Compartment followed by a Kitchen that and then a 24 seat dining room with six booths for four. To the rear of the dining area was a coach compartment seating 24 and two restrooms. These two cars numbered 1960 and 1961 were initially operated with two RDC-1s each 1908-1911 delivered at the same time to make three car trains they operated as the DAYLIGHT SPEEDLINERS between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh daily in each direction.

SPECIAL RDC – 2 BAGGAGE KITCHEN 24-SEAT DINING 24-SEAT COACHS Budd Company October 1956 (Built for and assigned to DAYLIGHT SPEEDLINERS)

1960, 1961

Two twin-unit sets of Crew Dormitory Kitchen – Dining room cars were purchased from the NYC in February 1957 and after repainting were assigned to the B&O finest the CAPITOL LIMITEDS. The NYC had assigned these two sets of cars to the DETROITER between New York and Detroit. They were originally built for the C&O and sold to the NYC almost immediately after completion by Pullman Standard.

16-CREW DORMITORY KITCHEN
CARS

1093 ex NYC 472 originally C&O 1956 CALDWELL’S KITCHEN

1095 ex NYC 473 originally C&O 1957 BOTSFORD KITCHEN

52-SEAT DINING ROOM 12-SEAT COCKTAIL LOUNGE CARS

1092 ex NYC 409 originally C&O 1975 MICHIE”S TAVERN

1095 ex NYC 410 originally C&O 1976 HANOVER TAVERN

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:05 PM
G'day!

Next up from the list is #4 . . . .

B&M F7A #4268 (foto credit: Ted Blank)


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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:45 PM
G'day!

Time for #5 . . . .

CP FP7A #1418 (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)


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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:19 PM
BOSTON
&
MAINE
(B&M)
Streamlined Dining & Lounge Cars
by Al


The Boston & Maine and Maine Central received one of the first diesel-powered streamliners in February 1935. Built by Budd it was nearly a double of the CB&Q PIONEER ZEPHYR except it lacked a mail compartment. This was the first lightweight streamlined diesel powered train to enter service in the Northeastern United States. The three-car articulated streamliner featured a shovelnose cab-engine room baggage buffet 28-revenue seat coach unit. The center articulated car featured 60-revenue coach seats and the third articulated unit contained a 32-revenue seat coach section and a 20-seat lounge observation. All three units carried one common number 6000. First assignment for the train set was as the FLYING YANKEE between Boston and Bangor twice round trip daily. Only the first and third cars are of any interest in this book. The train exists today in a New England museum. Like the CB&Q ZEPHYR the food from the buffet was served at the passengers seats.

ARTICULATED SHOVELNOSE CAB ENGINE ROOM BAGGAGE BUFFET 28-REVENUE SEAT COACH Budd Company February 1935 (Built for and assigned to FLYING YANKEE)

6000

ARTICULATED 34-SEAT COACH 20-SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATION Budd Company February 1935 (Built for and assigned to FLYING YANKEE)

6000

Following WW II the B&M and MEC purchased lightweight streamlined cars jointly from Pullman Standard to operate the following schedules the FLYING YANKEE, KENNEBEC, and PINE TREE. Each railroad purchased two restaurant lounge cars for operation in the postwar passenger trains. The four cars were delivered by Pullman Standard in August-September 1947 to the two New England roads and featured a kitchen at one end with a 24-seat restaurant a bar and 18-seat lounge. The two MEC cars were sold to the Chicago & Eastern Illinois in 1951 and the B&M sold their two to the WABASH in August 1957.

KITCHEN-PANTRY 24-SEAT RESTAURANT BAR 18-SEAT LOUNGE CARS Pullman Standard August – September 1947 (Built for and assigned to FLYING YANKEE, KENNEBEC, and PINE TREE)

B&M

70 BALD EAGLE

71 HERMIT THRUSH

MEC

15 MERRYMEETING

16 ARUNDEL


CANADIAN
PACIFIC
(CPR)
Dining & Lounge Cars
by Al

The Canadian Pacific operated a number of lightweight streamlined dining and lounge cars. Many were built in the CP Montreal shops from frames supplied by National Steel Car Company Ltd. The CPR built four streamlined trains in 1936 for high-speed service in Alberta, Ontario, and Quebec powered by new 4-4-4 streamlined “Jubilee” locomotives. Each four-car train was identical a Baggage-Buffet-8-seat Dinette 20-seat Coach provided the food and beverage service on these trains. The total seating capacity of the trains was 100. The two train sets operated in Quebec ran between Montreal – Quebec City as the WINDSOR and FRONTENAC. The train between Toronto and Detroit was named the ROYAL YORK. The western train was named the CHINOOK operating round trip daily between Calgary and Edmonton. Car numbers 3051 and 3052 were retired in 1967 and rebuilt for Maintenance of Way service. The 3051 was sold to the National Museum of Science and Technology where it is displayed today.
Car numbers 3050 and 3053 were retired from service in 1969 and sold for scrap.

25’ BAGGAGE BUFFET 8-SEAT DINETTE 20-SEAT COACHES CPR Shops August – September 1936 (Built for assignment to the CHINOOK FRONTENAC ROYAL YORK WINDSOR)

3050 – 3053

In June 1938 an additional streamlined car was built for one of he trains the ROYAL YORK. This car was a Buffet 17-seat Lounge 22-seat Parlor Observation car. The observation end of this car was blunt ad equipped with a diaphragm at both ends. There were windows on either side of the diaphragm of the end of the car operated as the observation end. In 1968 the 6630 was sold to the QNS&L with no change of number or paint scheme.

BUFFET 17-SEAT LOUNGE 22-SEAT PARLOR OBSERVATION CPR Shops June 1938 (Built for and assigned to ROYAL YORK)

6630

Between September 1947 and March 1949 CPR Montreal shops constructed ninety-nine 68-seat coaches divided into smoking and non-smoking sections the smoking section seating 24 and the non-smoking section seating 44. The cars were numbered 2200 – 2298, the reason they are mentioned here is that three of these cars 2289 –2291 were rebuilt in 1958 to 40-seat Parlor cars renumbered 6600 – 6602 arranged with two and one seating and were equipped with an airline style galley for food service at passengers seats. The cars were assigned to the pool trains between Montreal and Toronto operated jointly with the CNR.
In 1953 the CPR decided to streamline their transcontinental services with two train’s one new fully streamlined train the CANADIAN the other train named the DOMINION would be partially equipped with new streamlined cars and heavyweights in combination.
Each streamlined CANADIAN was assigned three feature cars per consist and the DOMINION was likewise equipped with the new cars built by Budd with Canadian content such as trucks and other items in the cars construction. In order to equip the two transcontinental streamliners the CPR ordered a total of 54 feature cars from Budd to equip the CANADIAN, DOMINION and ATLANTIC LIMITED with spares held in reserve. There were three types of feature cars the SKYLINE DOME car was a multi-purpose car with 26 coach seats forward of the dome on the main level, beneath the dome was a kitchen and six seat dinette, on the main level aft of the dome was a Buffet area with seating for 23 where meals and beverages were consumed by coach passengers of the CANADIAN and DOMINION. Those SKYLINE Dome cars assigned to the ATLANTIC LIMITED served both the coach and sleeping car passengers of that train as the SKYLINE Dome was the only food and beverage car in the consists. The standard 24-seat dome was for coach passengers of the CANADIAN and DOMINION. Each consist carried a single SKYLINE Dome car. The cars all carried the name SKLINE on there flanks and were numbered 500 – 517 All SKYLINE Dome cars were transferred to VIA Rail Canada ownership.

24-SEAT DOME 26-SEAT COACH KITCHEN 6-SEAT DINETTE 23-SEAT BUFFET CARS Budd Company 1954 – 1955 (Built for and assigned to CANADIAN – DOMINION – ATLANTIC LIMITED)

500 – 517

There were eighteen 48-seat dining cars built for the CANADIAN, DOMINION and pool service trains between Montreal and Toronto. They were assigned one per consist to each of the trains. The CANADIAN and DOMINION operated with two Dining room crews in their transcontinental trips. One crew operated between Montreal and Winnipeg the other between Winnipeg and Vancouver. This practice is continued today in VIA Rail Canada service. The new 48 seat dining cars were named only assigned names of Canadian Pacific Hotel Dining Rooms and Lounges.

48-SEAT DINING CARS Budd Company 1954 – 1955 (Built for and assigned to CANADIAN – DOMINION)

ACADIAN

ALEXANDRA

ALHAMBRA

ANNAPOLIS

CARTIER

CHAMPLAIN

EMERALD

EMPRESS

FAIRHOLME

FRONTENAC

IMPERIAL

KENT

LOUISE

PALLISER

PRINCESS

SELKIRK

WASCANA

YORK

The most talked about car in the CANADIAN and DOMINION trains were the PARK series Dome –Sleeper Lounge Observation cars. These cars were the perfect ending to any streamliner. Almost identical to those built for the CB&Q-D&RGW-WP CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR America’s cruise train, it was only fitting that Canada’s cruise train the CANADIAN have similar cars carrying the tail signs. These eighteen cars built for the CANADIAN and Dominion carried names only. The names selected were the names of Provincial and National Parks thus the reason the cars were always referred to as the Park cars. The interiors of these cars were floor planned with 3-double bedrooms 1-Drawing Room on the main level forward of the dome on the main level. Beneath the dome was a bar and 12-seat cocktail lounge, to the rear once again on the main level was a 14-seat Lounge Observation. The Dome level seated the usual 24 ad the PARK cars were for the exclusive use of sleeping car passengers. Of the eighteen built seventeen all but YOHO PARK that was destroyed in an accident went to VIA Rail Canada. Next to the car names below is the province where the park is located.

24-SEAT DOME 3-DOUBLE BEDROOM 1-DRAWING ROOM 12-SEAT LOUNGE BAR 14-SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Budd Company 1954-55 (Built for and assigned to CANADIAN – DOMINION)

ALGONQUIN PARK – ONTARIO

ASSINIBOINE PARK – B. C.

BANFF PARK – ALBERTA

EVANGELINE PARK – N. S.

FUNDY PARK – N. B.

GLACIER PARK – B. C.

KOKANEE PARK – B. C.

KOOTENAY PARK – B. C.

LAURENTIDE PARK – QUEBEC

PRINCE ALBERT PARK – SASK.

REVELSTOKE PARK – B. C.

RIDING MOUNTAIN PARK – MANITOBA

SIBLEY PARK – ONTARIO

STRATHCONA PARK – B. C.

TREMBLANT PARK – QUEBEC

TWEEDSMUIR PARK – B. C.

WATERTON PARK – ALBERTA

YOHO PARK – B. C.

All CPR Budd built cars surviving went to VIA Rail Canada ownership when the Canadian Government took over national passenger services.

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:30 PM
G'day!

And now for #6 from the list . . . .

C&O George Washington (foto credit: unknown)


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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:20 PM
Chesapeake
&
Ohio
(C&O)
Streamlined Dome Cars

The Chesapeake & Ohio purchased six domes all delivered by Budd in 1948 these six domes were of two different types. There were 3-coach–lounge observations 1875-1877 and three family room dome cars 1850-1852 as they were called. Both types of domes were built for the CHESSIE a new daytime streamliner between Washington – Newport News and Cincinnati. The CHESSIE would have operated as two sections east of Charleston. One section of the CHESSIE to and from Washington and the other section of the CHESSIE to and from Phoebus (Newport News), consolidating westbound at Charleston and splitting at this point eastbound. Alas, it really didn’t matter, as the CHESSIE never entered service. The forty-six cars delivered by Budd in August 1948 for the CHESSIE trains were disbursed over the next few years. All six of the dome cars were sold. The Dome sleeping cars were sold to the B&O in December 1950 for service in the CAPITOL LIMITED and SHENANDOAH. The C&O had seriously considered adding these cars to their own SPORTSMAN and even went so far as to assign names to the cars even though the names were not actually applied as follows:

1850 BELLE ISLE DOME

1851 CHAMBERLIN DOME

1852 HAMPTON ROADS DOME

See the B&O Chapter for further detail of these cars.
The other three CHESSIE domes the coach lounge Observations featured 20 seats forward of the dome and 16 seat lounge aft of the dome in the rounded end of the cars. A newsagent’s stand and the cars restrooms were located beneath the 24 seat domes. The C&O assigned these cars to service in the PERE MARQUETTES between Chicago – Grand Rapids and Detroit – Grand Rapids. The three cars 1875-1877 were sold to the Rio Grande in September 1949. Before delivery to the Rio Grande the cars were fitted with an adaptor complete with diaphragm for mid-train operation. After repainting in Grande Gold and Black the cars were renumbered 1248-1250 respectively. See Rio Grande Chapter for further details on these cars.

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:29 AM
CHICAGO
&
NORTH
WESTERN
Streamlined Sleeping Cars
by Al

The C&NW owned a total of thirty-three lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars dating between December 1937 and March - April 1950. Twenty -nine of these lightweight streamlined sleeping cars came from Pullman standard and the remaining four were from American Car & Foundry. The C&NW sleeping cars were four two distinctly different services. One was the operation with the Union Pacific of such streamliners as the CITY OF LOS ANGELES, CITY OF PORTLAND and CITY OF DENVER. In a three-way arrangement with the SP added they operated lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars for service in the CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO and SAN FRANCISCO OVERLAND. Actually the C&NW operated the complete trains and provided all types of cars toward the operation of the CITY fleet. The C&NW provided the tracks and crews between Chicago and Omaha.
The other fleet of sleeping cars owned by the C&NW were operated in the NORTHWESTERN LIMITED nightly between Chicago and Minneapolis, the DULUTH - SUPERIOR LIMITED from Chicago and its southbound namesake the CHICAGO LIMITED. Later the DAKOTA 400 carried a lightweight streamlined sleeping car between Huron and Rapid City nightly. The prewar streamlined sleeping cars operated in the OVERLAND route trains were assigned to one of the three operating roads following the second world war beginning in 1945.The following cars were transferred to C&NW ownership beginning in 1945.

18 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CAR Pullman Standard December 1937 Plan: 4068A Lot: 6526 (Transferred to C&NW ownership 1945. Original assignment of car to CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO renamed and transferred to CITY OF LOS ANGELES July 1941)

ROSE BOWL (2nd) originally TELEGRAPH HILL

4 DOUBLE BEDROOM 4 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard November 1940 Plan: 4069F Lot: 6636 (Assigned to C&NW ownership in 1945 and assigned to trains listed above car names)

CITY OF LOS ANGELES

ARCADIA

CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO

CIVIC CENTER

HUNTERS POINT

4 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 32 SEAT LOUNGE BLUNT OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard March - April 1942 Plan: 4096A Lot: 6636 (Assigned to C&NW ownership in 1945 and assigned to trains listed above car names)

CITY OF LOS ANGELES

BALDY MOUNTAIN

CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO

RUSSIAN HILL

An interesting footnote on car RUSSIAN HILL was how it came to be renamed HOOVER DAM in 1950. Apparently the infamous Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin was boarding a train in Northwestern Station Chicago for a trip to Wisconsin when he spotted the car RUSSIAN HILL on an adjoining track about to depart in the CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO. The Senator who saw a red behind every rock in America was aghast at the sight and penned a letter to the C&NW President about the outrageous name RUSSIAN HILL appearing on the sides of a railroad car. The C&NW took notice for when the car returned from its west coast trip to Oakland the name was changed to HOOVER DAM.

4 DOUBLE BEDROOM 4 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard March - April 1942 Plan: 4096H Lot: 6668 (Assigned to C&NW ownership 1945 and assigned to OVERLAND route trains)

IMPERIAL DRIVE

IMPERIAL LEAF

IMPERIAL MARK

IMPERIAL RANCH

6 SECTION 6 ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard May - June 1942 Plan: 4099 Lot: 6669 (Assigned to C&NW ownership 1945 and assigned to OVERLAND route trains)

AMERICAN BEAUTY

AMERICAN BRIGADE

AMERICAN BUFFALO

AMERICAN EMBASSY

AMERICAN INDIAN

AMERICAN PATROL

AMERICAN PLAINS

AMERICAN SKIES

AMERICAN SUNSET

The only lightweight streamlined sleeping cars purchased for C&NW trains were twelve NORTHERN series cars with 16 Duplex Roomettes 1 Compartment 3 Double Bedrooms. Initially these twelve cars were assigned to operation in the NORTHWESTERN LIMITED overnight in each direction between Chicago and Minneapolis, and the DULUTH SUPEROIR LIMITED - CHICAGO LIMITED between those points.

16 DUPLEX ROOMETTE 1 COMPARTMENT 3 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard October - November 1948 Plan: 4146 Lot: 6774 (Built for and assigned to NORTHWESTERN LIMITED, DULUTH-SUPEROIR LIMITED and CHICAGO LIMITED)

NORTHERN DAIRYLAND

NORTHERN FORESTS

NORTHERN PINES

NORTHERN PROGRESS

NORTHERN STAR

NORTHERN STATES

NORTHERN STREAM

NORTHERN SUMMER

NORTHERN TRAILS

NORTHERN VACATIONS

NORTHERN WILDLIFE

NORTHERN WONDERLAND

The only postwar lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars purchased by the C&NW for CITY streamliners were four cars delivered in 1950 from American Car & Foundry. Two of these cars were WESTERN series cars with 12 Roomettes and 4 Double Bedrooms and two were 6 Section 6 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars in the AMERICAN series as follows.

12 ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS American Car & Foundry January 1950 Plan: 9004 Lot: 3072 (Built for and assigned to CITY Streamliners)

WESTERN FRONTIER

WESTERN PEAK

6 SECTION 6 ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CAR American Car & Foundry March - April 1950 Plan: 9005 Lot: 3070 (Built for and assigned to CITY Streamliners)

AMERICAN EMBASSY

6 SECTION 6 ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CAR American Car & Foundry March - April 1950 Plan: 9005 Lot: 3073 (Built for and assigned to CITY Streamliners)

AMERICAN SUNSET

The C&NW operated Overland route trains in cooperation with the Union Pacific and Central Pacific later Southern Pacific from 1889 until the Chicago - Omaha part of the route was switched to the Milwaukee Road in October 1955. At that time all Overland route cars owned by the C&NW were returned to that road. This gave the C&NW an instant surplus of sleeping cars which the C&NW had little or no use for. Many were stored pending disposition either scrapping or sale. The NORTHERN series cars became surplus to the C&NW after the final run of the NORTHWESTERN LIMITED and June 14, 1959 and they were then stored. In 1964 all NORTHERN series sleeping cars were sold to the NdeM.

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:51 AM
ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Here’s a little something taken from the literature associated with the California-Zephyr and its Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge:

Rest and Relaxation in the ”Vista-Dome” Lounge-Observation Car

The spacious and luxurious lounge-observation car at the rear of the train and immediately behind the sleeping cars, furnishes congenial lounging facilities on three different levels for as many as fifty passengers.

Modern ingenious designing and expert fabrication combine to make a composite unit of four distinctly separate accommodations in this exquisite car.

The ‘main floor” lounge is located within the gracefully rounded end of the observation car. Here, deeply-cushioned occasionally chairs and settees, in shades of sandalwood and brown in a setting of rose-tan and petal beige, invite complete relaxation.

Carpeted and individually-lighted steps from the lounge lead to the distinctive air-conditioned “Vista-Dome – tastefully decorated in tones of sandalwood. Here, enclosed in shatter-proof, glare-resistant glass, are twenty-four deep-cushioned seats, where passengers may ride in comfort and enjoy a complete view in every direction.

Nestled beneath the Dome is a buffet. Tastefully decorated in rose and gray-green, it provides a delightful rendezvous in which to speed the miles and minutes. At one end of the buffet is a refreshment counter with carved linoleum base and back bar of stainless steel and etched mirrors. Electric refrigeration units assure an ample supply of cool, refreshing beverages at all times. The buffet has a telephone connection with the dining car, over which table reservations can be made.

Forward from the buffet are three bedrooms and a drawing room, each having enclosed toilet facilities. Each room is attractively decorated in harmonious shades of rose-tan, petal beige, taupe and ashes of roses.

This car is completely carpeted and windows are equipped with Venetian blinds – those in the observation-lounge having drapes of gold and white.

From the “American Passenger Train”

Of note: The design of these Budd manufactured cars carries over to day with the VIA Rail Canada fleet of Park Car observation domes. With slight modifications, the literature quoted above could be closely associated with the cars still in use in Canada.

Enjoy!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]


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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:49 AM
Chicago
Burlington
&
Quincy
(CB&Q)
Streamlined Dome Cars
by Al


The Chicago Burlington & Quincy would be the largest owner of Budd built dome cars prior to Burlington Northern and a year later Amtrak.
The Burlington as previously mentioned built the first modern dome car in their own Aurora Shops in Illinois. Actually this was a rebuild from a prewar Budd built stainless steel streamlined coach. The completed car was the 4714 SILVER DOME so named upon completion of the conversion to dome. The CB&Q named the car a Vista-Dome a name they would use for all of the domes they owned except for the one VIEW series full-dome they operated in the GN EMPIRE BUILDERS.

24-SEAT VISTA DOME 34 REVENUE SEAT COACH Budd Company June 1940 Rebuilt to Dome in CB&Q Aurora Shops June 1945 (World’s first modern dome car referred to as the pattern dome assigned to TWIN ZEPHYR)

4714 SILVER DOME original name SILVER ALCHEMY)

From this single car the CB&Q would order ten Vista-Domes for the two consists of the postwar VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYR. Each consist would have no less than five of the new VISTA-DOMES in each consist. There was three 54 revenue seat Vista-Dome coaches, one 50 revenue seat Vista-Dome coach and a single 29-revenue seat Parlor with 5-revenue seat Parlor Drawing Room Vista-Dome Observation. In addition their were two additional seats located at the rear of the Observation that were only a little less plu***han the other parlor seats that were sold as parlor seating when all other parlor seats were sold out. In actual fact the two observations actually sold 31-parlor seats not counting the five in the parlor drawing room located beneath the dome with its own private bathroom. In actual fact rare was the occasion when all 31 of these seats were not sold out as parlor car seating. All three types of dome cars had 24-non revenue seats in the domes.
The 54-revenue seat Vista-Dome coach’s featured 20-reclining seats forward of the dome, a large Women’s and Men’s restrooms were located beneath the dome. To the rear of the dome was located another 34-reclining seats.
The other Vista-Dome coach carried in each VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYR featured a Hostess room on the right side of the car forward on the main level. To the rear of the small Hostess room was 18-seats on the main level forward of the dome. Beneath the dome of these cars was a crew dayroom with 4-chairs and locker with a crew restroom annex. A small pair of passenger restrooms occupied the remaining space beneath the dome. To the rear of the dome on the cars main level were 32 –reclining seats, and a small conductors office.
The trains originally operated with two flat top cars as well one a 48-seat dining car the other a baggage-buffet 39-seat lounge car, bringing the original consists to seven cars each.
The VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS entered service December 19, 1947 becoming the first Vista-Dome trains in the world to enter scheduled service. Each train set would complete a round trip daily between Chicago and Minneapolis. In the mornings they operated as the MORNING VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS and in the afternoons as the AFTERNOON VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 54-REVENUE SEAT COACHES Budd Company July – October 1947 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS)

4725 SILVER ISLAND

4726 SILVER RIVER

4727 SILVER STREAM

4728 SILVER WAVE

4729 SILVER SCENE

4730 SILVER VISION

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME CREW ROOMS 50-REVENUE SEAT COACHES Budd Company October 1947 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS)

4723 SILVER BLUFF

4725 SILVER GLADE

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 5-SEAT PARLOR DRAWING ROOM 31-SEAT PARLOR OBSERVATIONS Budd Company November – December 1947 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS)

360 SILVER VIEW

361 SILVER VISTA

The following is a list of the two consists of the initial VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS.

800 SILVER BUFFET
Baggage-Buffet 39-seat Lounge Car
4726 SILVER RIVER
24-seat Vista-Dome 54-revenue seat Coach
4727 SILVER STREAM
24-seat Vista-Dome 54-revenue seat Coach
4728 SILVER WAVE
24-seat Vista-Dome 54-Revenue seat Coach
4723 SILVER BLUFF
24-seat Vista-Dome 50-Revenue seat Coach
197 SILVER FEAST
48-seat Dining Car
360 SILVER VIEW
24-seat Vista-Dome 5-seat Parlor Drawing Room 31-seat Parlor Observation

801 SILVER SALON
Baggage Buffet 39-seat Lounge Car
4729 SILVER SCENE
24-seat Vista-Dome 54-revenue seat Coach
4725 SILVER ISLAND
24-seat Vista-Dome 54-revenue seat Coach
4730 SILVER VISION
24-seat Vista-Dome 54-revenue seat Coach
4724 SILVER GLADE
24-seat Vista-Dome 50-revenue seat Coach
196 SILVER SALVER
48-seat Dining Car
361 SILVER VISTA
24-seat Vista-Dome 5-seat parlor Drawing Room 31-seat Parlor Observation

The CB&Q along with the D&RGW and WP ordered the most famous dome equipped streamliners of all in October 1945 two months after the CB&Q ordered the first two VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYR streamliners. This second order for Vista-Dome cars was for the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR, the train that would become a legend in its own right, America”s first cruise train
Each of the six VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR train sets were initially eleven cars in length; five of those cars were domes. Each VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR initially carried four types of different domes per consist, a women & children’s Vista Dome Coach, standard Vista Dome coaches, Vista Dome Buffet Lounge crew Dormitory and Vista-Dome 3-DBR 1 DR Bar Lounge and Lounge observation.
The first Vista-Dome 46-leg-rest seat coach in each of the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR consists was a designated women and Children’s car. The forward 18-seat coach area had a passageway door beneath the dome just forward of the men’s restroom to segregate this part of the car from the rest of the car. The remainder of these cars seated the standard 24 in the dome and 24 leg-rest seats on the main level aft of the dome. There were six of these cars built by Budd for the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR. Two were CB&Q cars, one a D&RGW car and the remaining three WP owned. It is believed the cars lasted about two years as designated Women and Children’s car before the passageway door was removed and they were operated just as if they were any other dome coach in the VISTA DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 46-SEAT LEG-REST COACHES (designated Women & Children’s) Budd Company (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNA ZEPHYR)

CB&Q
Delivered January – February 1948

4721 SILVER SADDLE

4722 SILVER STIRRUP

D&RGW
Delivered February 1948

1108 SILVER PONY

WP
Delivered February – March 1948

815 SILVER SCHOONER

816 SILVER SCOUT

817 SILVER THISTLE

The remaining eighteen Vista-Dome Coaches were 46-Leg-Rest Seat Cars without the passageway door beneath the dome. Eighteen Leg-rest seats forward of the dome on the main level and 28 on the main level aft of the depressed center beneath the dome. One each men’s and ladies restroom was located beneath the 24-seat Vista Dome. These restrooms were quite large with make-up area and bench in the ladies room, two sinks, and one separate toilet room, the men’s restroom provided two toilets with a bench and 4 sinks. This became the standard Budd arrangement for long distance dome coaches that would follow over the ensuing years. Since the Vista Dome Coaches were delivered to the operating roads before the VISTA DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR entered service they were assigned to the heavyweight EXPOSITION FLYER between Chicago and Oakland. The EXPOSITION FLYER would be discontinued with the inauguration of the VISTA DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 46-SEAT LEG-REST COACHES Budd Company (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR)

CB&Q
Delivered March – April 1948

4716 SILVER BRIDLE

4717 SILVER LODGE

4718 SILVER LARIAT

4719 SILVER RANCH

4720 SILVER RIFLE

D&RGW
Delivered March – April 1948

1106 SILVER COLT

1107 SILVER MUSTANG

1108 SILVER BRONCO

WP
Delivered March – May 1948

811 SILVER DOLLAR

812 SILVER FEATHER

813 SILVER PALACE

814 SILVER SAGE

The fourth dome in the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR was the Vista-Dome Buffet Lounge Crew Dormitory car. The dome seated the usual 24 beneath the glass, in the short forward section of the cars main level was the Coffee Shop with seating for 19 arranged around four tables for four and one table for three. Beneath the dome was a 7-seat lounge area and the small kitchen pantry that served the Coffee Shop and Lounge area. The dome level of these cars was restricted to use by sleeping car passengers only who reached the dome by using the passageway alongside the Crew Dormitory space. To the rear of the dome on the main level was the crew dormitory area providing space for 15 in the main bunk area for the Dining car and Buffet lounge crew. To the rear of the general dormitory were two bedrooms, one for the dining car steward, and the other for the Zephyrette. The Zephyrette was the train hostess assigned to the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYRS. Initially these stewardesses were either College graduates or registered nurses, later these requirements were relaxed when many would be stewardesses turned to the airlines instead of the trains for work. The VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR Zephyrettes were home based in Oakland.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 19-SEAT COFFEE SHOP 7-SEAT LOUNGE BUFFET-PANTRY 19-CREW DORMITORY CARS Budd Company (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR)

CB&Q
Delivered October-November 1948

250 SILVER CLUB

251 SILVER LOUNGE

252 SILVER ROUNDUP

D&RGW
Delivered November 1948

1140 SILVER SHOP

WP
Delivered November 1948

831 SILVER CHALET

832 SILVER HOSTEL

The last car and last Vista-Dome in each VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR was among the most beautiful cars ever built for railroad use. These cars besides having a dome that seated the standard 24, featured three Double Bedrooms one Drawing Room all forward of the dome on the main level. Beneath the dome was a twelve-passenger lounge with seating at tables for eight at tables for two and one table for four and bar. To the rear of the depressed area of the car was a lounge with seating for 18 one of these at a small writing desk providing complimentary VISTA DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR stationary. This latter lounge was in the rounded observation end. There were six of these cars built initially for the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR. The Drawing Room Annex in each of these cars was retrofitted with a shower in 1951 after the cars had been in service for about two years.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 3-DOUBLE BEDROOM 1-DRAWING ROOM BAR 12-SEAT LOUNGE 18-SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Budd Company Plan: 9511 Lots: 9659-019-020-021 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR)

CB&Q
Delivered December 1948

375 SILVER HORIZON

376 SILVER PENTHOUSE

377 SILVER SOLARIUM

D&RGW
Delivered December 1948

1145 SILVER SKY

WP
Delivered December 1948

881 SILVER CRESCENT

882 SILVER PLANET

The CB&Q Aurora Shops were busy once again in July 1949 rebuilding another prewar Budd built streamlined coach into another of the so-called pattern dome cars identical to the earlier 4714 SILVER DOME. This second pattern dome 4709-SILVER CASTLE another coach originally constructed by Budd in June 1940 retained its name and number. After being rebuilt to a dome the 4709 SILVER CASTLE was assigned to one of the VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS. In fact the CB&Q operated both of their pattern domes in the VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS. No picture has ever surfaced of the two pattern domes operating in the same consist while in CB&Q or BN service. But pictures exist of the two TWIN ZEPHYRS passing with each having one pattern dome in each consist.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 34-REVENUE SEAT COACH Budd Company June 1940 Rebuilt to Dome in CB&Q Aurora Shop July 1949 (Rebuilt for and assigned to VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYR)

4709 SILVER CASTLE

In December 1952 the CB&Q received a single 24-seat Vista-Dome 3-Double Bedroom 1-Drawing Room Bar 12-seat lounge 18- seat lounge Observation from Budd lettered for the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR. This car was delivered with a shower in the annex of the drawing room. The shower feature had been added to the drawing room annexes of the earlier Vista-Dome Sleeper lounge Observations built for the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR in 1951.
The CB&Q purchased this car and three sleeping cars for the VISTA–DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR pool so two 10-6 sleeping cars, one 16-section sleeping car and one of the Vista-Dome Sleeper lounge Observations could be utilized in their Chicago layover to operate to Lincoln overnight on the rear of the VISTA-DOME AK-SAR-BEN ZEPHYR. These cars would then return to Chicago the following night and after arrival the next morning in Chicago the four cars would be assigned to that afternoons departing westbound VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR. This was the last round end observation ever built for the CB&Q all future Observations built for ZEPHYRS would be blunt ended with diaphragms fitted for use mid-train if necessary.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 3 DOUBLE BEDROOM 1-DRAWING ROOM BAR 12-SEAT LOUNGE 18-SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATION Budd Company December 1952 Plan: 9433 Lot: 9659-112 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR)

378 SILVER LOOKOUT

The next CB&Q Vista-Domes delivered were four in 1952 for the startup of a new daylight ZEPHYR between Chicago and Kansas City made possible by the new Kansas City shortcut. The old route left the direct line to St. Joseph at Cameron Junction and proceeded to Kansas City. This route was 490 miles from Chicago to Kansas City and the track south of Cameron Junction was built for anything but fast running. The new Kansas City shortcut left the St. Joseph mainline at Brookfield and headed over new high-speed trackage on a far more direct route to Kansas City. The route cut 24 miles from the old route but had none of the slow running of the old route. This new shortcut permitted the CB&Q to at last compete with the Santa Fe between Kansas City and Chicago. The CB&Q was not concerned about their overnight service as it departed at a late hour and arrived at the other city in the early morning in time for a full day’s business. The overnight service did not require the speed of a daytime operation but never the less the CB&Q was going to upgrade the overnight AMERICAN ROYAL to ZEPHYR status at the same time. Some of the equipment operated in the new daytime Chicago to Kansas City service would also be utilized in the overnight VISTA-DOME AMERICAN ROYAL ZEPHYR as well. The new daytime train was named the VISTA-DOME KANSAS CITY ZEPHYR and each of this trains two-train sets was comprised of six cars each as follows:

1601 SILVER MAIL
Baggage 30’Railway Post Office car
4702 SILVER SPRING
52-Revenue seat Coach
4732 SILVER SHIELD
50-Revenue seat Coach
320 SILVER GARDEN
24-seat Vista Dome Coffee Shop Lounge Buffet Crew Dormitory 24-seat Coach
199 SILVER INN
48-seat Dining Car
366 SILVER TOWER
24-seat Vista Dome 5-seat Parlor Drawing Room 27- Seat Parlor Observation


1604 SILVER POUCH
Baggage 30’ Railway Post Office car
4715 SILVER CASCADE
52-Revenue seat Coach
4733 SILVER SPEAR
50-Revenue seat Coach
321 SILVER PATIO
24-seat Vista Dome Coffee Shop Lounge Buffet Crew Dormitory 24- seat Coach
200 SILVER MANOR
48-seat Dining Car
365 SILVER TERRACE
24-seat Vista Dome 5-seat Parlor Drawing Room 27-seat Parlor Observation

The Vista Dome Coffee Shop Lounge Buffet crew Dormitory coaches operated in both the new VISTA-DOME KANSAS CITY ZEPHYRS and new VISTA-DOME AMERICAN ROYAL ZEPHYRS.
The interiors of these two cars featured the 24-Vista Dome seats and the forward end of these cars featured a 24 revenue seat coach section and a small Crew Dormitory space (3-Crew) just ahead of the cars depressed center. Beneath the dome was a large Buffet and six seat Lounge with one table for four and one table for two to the rear of the depressed area of the car was a 17-seat Coffee Shop arranged with two tables for four, and three tables for three located on the cars main level, with the stairs leading to the dome.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 24-REVENUE SEAT COACH 3-CREW DORMITORY BUFFET LOUNGE COFFEE SHOP CARS Budd Company December 1952 (Built for and assigned to KANSAS CITY ZEPHYRS and AMERICAN ROYAL ZEPHYRS)

320 SILVER GARDEN

321 SILVER PATIO

The other dome car assigned to each VISTA-DOME KANSAS CITY ZEPHYR was a Vista-Dome Parlor Observation. These were the first of four blunt ended observations Budd would build for the CB&Q. The CB&Q Vista-Dome blunt end cars featured windows on either side of the rear door fitted with a diaphragm. This afforded the passengers viewing to the rear. In many ways it was better than the view from the rounded end observations as the view through the glass was not distorted as the panes on the rounded end observations often were.
The interiors of these two cars featured the standard 24-seats in the Vista-Dome, forward of the dome on the main level was seven Parlor seats. Beneath the dome was a 5-seat Parlor drawing Room with private annex and a pair of restrooms for the other parlor car patrons. In the main level area to the rear of the dome was another parlor lounge area with 20-Parlor seats.
In the 1960’s the VISTA-DOME KANSAS CITY ZEPHYRS ran combined with the NEBRASKA ZEPHYRS between Chicago and Galesburg both eastbound and westbound. This was probably the only assignment these cars operated in that they were used mid-train.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 5-SEAT PARLOR DRAWING ROOM 27-SEAT PARLOR OBSERVATIONS Budd Company November – December 1952 (Built for and assigned to KANSAS CITY ZEPHYRS)

365 SILVER TERRACE

366 SILVER TOWER

The next new Vista-Domes to arrive were ten 46-leg rest seat cars for the NP VISTA-DOME NORTH COAST LIMITED fully painted in the new Raymond Loewy two-tone green with white separation stripe scheme. The Budd built domes delivered to the NP were smooth sided cars not fluted side panels as on all previous domes built by Budd. The CB&Q owned two of these cars as they operated the VISTA-DOME NORTH COAST LIMITED between Chicago and St. Paul daily in each direction. The NP assigned these Vista-domes to replace two of that trains 56-revenue seat Leg Rest Coaches. The NP train-lined a flat top Coach between the dome coaches in order to assure the passengers a more unobstructed view. This was certainly something that would have benefited other train operating with domes. . The NP operated the new Vista-Dome coaches two per consist with one a Chicago – Portland car the other a through Chicago – Seattle car.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 46-REVENUE SEAT LEG-REST COACHES Budd Company July – August 1954 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME NORTH COAST LIMITED)

NP

550-556

CB&Q

557,558

SP&S

559

Between September and November 1954 the NP received 10 Vista-Dome Sleeping cars for the VISTA-DOME NORTH COAST LIMITED. These like the earlier Vista-Dome coaches were assigned in pairs to the VISTA-DOME NORTH COAST LIMITED. The interiors of these cars featured 4 Roomettes 4 Double Bedrooms and 4 Duplex Single Rooms beneath the Dome. The revenue space was for a maximum 16 passengers, not much when the cars they replaced had revenue space for 22. This gave the NP premier trains two Vista-Domes between Chicago and Portland and two between Chicago and Seattle. Rare were Dome Sleeping cars that were not observations, only the B&O would own three dome sleeping cars originally built for the C&O CHESSIE. In fact their was only a total of fifteen built and the one constructed for the TRAIN OF TOMORROW spent its entire revenue career operating in Parlor car service for the UP between Portland and Seattle. For further information on these Vista-Dome Sleeping cars see the NP chapter.

24-SEAT VISTA –DOME 4-ROOMETTES 4-DUPLEX SINGLE ROOMS 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Budd Company Plan: 9535 Lot: 9669-141 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME NORTH COAST LIMITED)

CB&Q

304,305

SP&S

306

NP

307-313

The next domes to arrive that the CB&Q owned were three 46-leg-rest seat Vista-Domes built as part of an order for sixteen for the GN EMPIRE BUILDER. They were delivered by Budd and entered service in May 1955. The GN assigned three to each consist of the EMPIRE BUILDER replacing three 48-seat Coaches in each consist. Unfortunately like the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR they were all coupled together. Two of the Great Domes as the GN referred to them were assigned to Chicago – Seattle service and the third was assigned to Chicago – Portland service operating via the SP&S between Spokane and Portland in each direction.. As with the NP domes these cars were flat-sided stainless steel cars from Budd painted in the Omaha Orange, Pullman Green scheme with Dulux Gold separation stripes and lettering of the Great Northern.

24-SEAT GREAT DOME 46-REVENUE SEAT LEG-REST COACHES Budd Company May 1955 (Built for and assigned to GREAT DOME EMPIRE BUILDER)

GN

1320 – 1331

SP&S

1332

CB&Q

1333-1335

In October 1955 Budd delivered six full-length dome Lounge cars to the GN for the Pullman passengers of the GREAT-DOME EMPIRE BUILDER. They were coupled behind the GREAT-DOME EMPIRE BUILDER 36-seat dining car in each train set. The upper level of these huge cars seated 75, 57 in single and double seats for viewing and an 18-seat lounge. The lounge centered beneath the dome seated 32 with a large Buffet. An electric dumbwaiter operated between the lower level buffet and the upper level lounge area to serve those passengers drinks from the lower level. These cars operated on six wheel trucks to spread their weight. The cars were smooth side stainless steel cars from Budd and as with the earlier short domes were fully painted and lettered for the EMPIRE BUILDER. After the full compliment of three short domes and one full dome was added to the EMPIRE BUILDERS they were advertised as the Incomparable GREAT-DOME EMPIRE BUILDER. The GREAT-DOME EMPIRE BUILDER was the only train prior to Amtrak and Auto-Train to operate with both short domes and a full-dome in each consist. For further details of these cars see the Great Northern chapter.

75-SEAT GREAT DOME BUFFET 32 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Budd Company October 1955 (Built for and assigned to GREAT DOME EMPIRE BUILDER)

GN

1390 GLACIER VIEW

1391 OCEAN VIEW

1392 MOUNTAIN VIEW

1393 LAKE VIEW

1394 PRAIRIE VIEW

CB&Q

1395 RIVER VIEW

The CB&Q stunned the railroad world of the day with the announcement in February 1955 they were ordering two new twelve car trains as replacements for the 1936 streamlined DENVER ZEPHYRS. These would be the last full service trains built for overnight service in the United States before the Amtrak Superliners. The new VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS were actually fourteen car trains when they entered service October 28, 1956.
Unusual were the VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYR trains, as they not only carried first class sleeping car passengers but Parlor Car passengers as well. This was true of the 1936 versions of the DENVER ZEPHYR and the same was offered in the 1956 versions of the VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS. Eastbound the VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS offered Parlor car seating between Denver and Lincoln, while westbound parlor car space was sold between Chicago and Omaha. These new VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS provided reserved Coach seating for 146, the Slumbercoaches provided space for another 80 coach passengers. The first class section of the VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS provided parlor space for 16 passengers and sleeping car space for 88. The Colorado Springs section of the VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS provided one coach with 50-seats, a 24-seat Vista-Dome Coffee Shop Crew Dormitory, one Slumbercoach with economy sleeping space for 40, and a 10-roomette 6-double bedroom sleeping car with first class sleeping space for 22. This gave the new VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS space for 330 passengers between Chicago and Omaha, while its eastbound counterpart provided space for 330 between Denver and Lincoln.
The two head end car in each consist were built by Budd for other CB&Q trains. Being stainless steel they looked as good as the new Budd built cars fresh from the factory that inaugurated the new VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS. The new VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS not only operated between Chicago and Denver in each direction nightly, operating four through cars beyond Denver to Colorado Springs added to the rear of the D&RGW ROYAL GORGE between the two Colorado cities daily in each direction. Each consist of the VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS were assigned three Vista-Domes, a 46 seat leg rest coach, a dormitory buffet lounge Car, and a parlor buffet Observation bringing up the markers. The two initial consists are listed below with all four Slumbercoaches listed even though two were not delivered until November 1956. The consists had not changed since their inaugural, the two new Slumbercoaches were the Denver cars. Through cars to and from Colorado Springs are shown in parenthesis.

1601 SILVER MAIL
Baggage 30’ Railway Post Office Car
906 ARGO
Baggage Car
4741 SILVER REIN
50-Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach
4736 SILVER BRAND
24-seat Vista-Dome 46-Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach
4901 SILVER SLUMBER
24-Single Room 8-Double Room Slumbercoach
4737 SILVER BIT
50-Revenue Seat Leg-Rest Coach
(Chicago – Colorado Springs)
254 SILVER KETTLE
24-Seat Vista-Dome Coffee Shop Lunch Counter Crew Dormitory Car
(Chicago – Colorado Springs)
4902 SILVER REST
24-Single Room 8 Double Room Slumbercoach
(Chicago – Colorado Springs)
493 SILVER RIDGE
10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Chicago – Colorado Springs)
201 SILVER CHEF
48-Seat Dining Car
453 SILVER SWAN
5-Compartment 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
486 SILVER PLATEAU
10-Roomette 6-Double bedroom Sleeping Car
487 SILVER HOLLOW
10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
236 SILVER VERANDA
24-Seat Vista-Dome 11-Seat Parlor 5-Seat Parlor Drawing Room Bar Lounge-Lounge Observation


1604 SILVER POUCH
Baggage 30” Railway Post Office Car
907 OLYMPUS
Baggage Car
4739 SILVER HALTER
50-Seat Leg-Rest Coach
4735 SILVER BUCKLE
24-Seat Vista-Dome 46-Seat Leg-Rest Coach
4900 SILVER SIESTA
24-Single Room 8-Double Room Slumbercoach
4738 SILVER BLANKET
50-Seat Leg-Rest Coach
(Colorado Springs – Chicago)
253 SILVER CUP
24-Seat Vista-Dome Coffee Shop Lunch Counter Crew Dormitory Car
(Colorado Springs – Chicago)
4903 SILVER REPOSE
24-Single Room 8 Double Room Slumbercoach
(Colorado Springs – Chicago)
485 SILVER TERRAIN
10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Colorado Springs – Chicago)
202 SILVER TUREEN
48-Seat Dining Car
454 SILVER PELICAN
5-Compartment 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
491 SILVER RAVINE
10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
488 SILVER BOULDER
10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
235 SILVER CHATEAU
24-Seat Vista-Dome 11-Seat Parlor 5 Seat Parlor Drawing Room Bar Lounge – Lounge Observation

The first Vista Dome in each of the new VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS was a 46-seat Leg-Rest Coach the same as they had built for the VISTA–DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYRS in 1948 by Budd. These would be the last fluted side stainless steel domes of this type built by Budd. They would construct one smooth sided painted Vista-Dome 46-Leg-Rest Seat Coach for the VISTA-DOME NORTH COAST LIMITED in December 1957 along with another of their Vista-Dome Sleeping Cars. These would be the final two short Domes delivered by Budd.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 46-SEAT LEG REST COACHES Budd Company August 1956 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS)

4735 SILVER BUCKLE

4736 SILVER BRAND

The second Vista-Dome in each new VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYR featured the standard 24 seats in the dome, forward of the dome on the main level of the cars was a 19-seat Coffee Shop made up of four tables for four and one table for three. Beneath the dome was a table for four and an 8 seat Lunch Counter. To the rear of the depressed section beneath the dome was the Kitchen, stairway to the dome level and seventeen Crew dormitory space, a steward’s bedroom completed the cars floor plan. These cars operated as through cars to Colorado Springs.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 19 SEAT COFFEE SHOP 8 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER 18-CREW DORMITORY CARS Budd Company October 1956 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS)

253 SILVER CUP

254 SILVER KETTLE

The last car in each VISTA–DOME DENVER ZEPHYR was a Vista-Dome blunt end observation for first class passengers only. These cars featured the standard 24-seats in the Vista-Dome with an 11-seat Parlor section on the main level forward of the dome along with a 5-seat Parlor drawing room. Beneath the Dome was the “Colorado Room” a 12 seat Cocktail Lounge with Bar. The rear of the cars main level was occupied by a 13-seat lounge one at a desk. This completed the Vista-Dome deliveries to the CB&Q.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 11-SEAT PARLOR 5 SEAT PARLOR DRAWING ROOM BUFFET 12-SEAT LOUNGE 13 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Budd Company September 1956 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME DENVER ZEPHYRS)

235 SILVER CHATEAU

236 SILVER VERANDA

The CB&Q owned one Full Length Budd built dome and thirty-six short domes including the two pattern domes they constructed from flattop coaches in their own Aurora shops. Only the Union Pacific and Burlington Northern would own more before Amtrak. The Union Pacific owned forty-four and Burlington Northern owned seventy-three.
All CB&Q domes passed into Burlington Northern ownership following the March 1970 merger of the CB&Q-GN-NP-SP&S-FW&D-C&S.
For further details of the history of the CB&Q domes see the Burlington Northern chapter.

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:24 PM
G'day!

Something in tribute to the "California Zephyr" . . . .

CB&Q #376 Silver Penthouse "California Zephyr" (foto: unknown)


Later! [tup]

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:39 PM
Chicago
Milwaukee
St Paul
&
Pacific
(CMSTP&P)
Streamlined Dome Cars
by Al


The Milwaukee Road operated domes beginning in December 1952 with the delivery of ten full-length domes named Super Domes to the railroad by Pullman Standard. These were the first full-length domes ever constructed and the first Pullman Standard domes constructed with curved glass in the domes. They were so heavy at 112 tons they required six wheel trucks to spread the weight over the rails. They required high capacity 16-ton capacity air conditioning supplied by their own 70 hp diesel generator in a service bay at one end of the car. Milwaukee Road received the cars numbered 50-59. The name Super Dome appeared in script below the windows of the lower level lounge. The cars were delivered in the Milwaukee Road colors of Harvest Orange and Royal Maroon.
The Milwaukee Road assigned four of the new Super Domes to operation between Chicago and Minneapolis in the MORNING HIAWATHAS (2) and AFTERNOON HIAWATHAS (2), they became the second trains to operate domes between Chicago and Minneapolis the CB&Q VISTA-DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS began operating December 19, 1947. The remaining six Super Domes were assigned to the Chicago to Seattle-Tacoma OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA. They became the first trains operating between Chicago and the Pacific Northwest to offer domes. But they were not the first domes operating in the Pacific Northwest, That honor goes to the Union Pacific when they purchased the GM TRAIN OF TOMORROW domes and assigned them to trains 457-458 between Portland and Seattle round trip daily beginning in September 1950.
The Milwaukee Road Super Domes 50-59 seated 68 passengers in coach type seating in the upper level under the dome. There were 8-single seats and 30 pairs of seats. Forward visibility from these domes was skyward only when seated, one needed to stand to get forward visibility. The passengers sat with their shoulders at the height of the side windows so viewing to the side was very good. The lower level of the domes featured a Café Lounge with 28 seats.
Those Super Domes assigned to the OLYMPIAN HIAWATHAS operated behind both electrics and diesels on their daily transcontinental trips. Only the Great Northern could claim the same operating domes in the EMPIRE BUILDER beginning in May 1955 and ending when the 71 mile GN electrification was shut down in July 1956 when a new ventilation system was installed in the Cascade Tunnel permitting diesels to run through. The GN electrification operated between Wenatchee and Skykomish, Washington just west of the 7.79 mile Cascade Tunnel. The Milwaukee Road operated two electrified zones. The western electrification extended from Othello, Washington in the Columbia Basin country to Seattle and Tacoma 209 miles crossing the Cascade Mountains at Snoqualmie Pass. The other Milwaukee Road electrification zone extended from Harlowton, Montana to Avery, Idaho 439 miles crossing the Rockies.
The OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA was discontinued in 1961 and the Super Domes from this train were assigned first to the CITY OF DENVERS, and HIAWATHA services to Madison from Chicago. In 1964 six of the Super Domes were sold to the Canadian National Railway. The remaining four lasted until Amtrak and were purchased by the national passenger carrier and numbered 9381-9383 these were the former Milwaukee Road 55, 57, 58 and 59 respectively.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:10 PM
G'day!

We've seen 'em before, but they're always nice to look at!

from: www.trainweb.org


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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:30 PM
CHICAGO
ROCK ISLAND
&
PACIFIC
Streamlined Sleeping Cars
by Al

The Rock Island owned a total of forty-eight lightweight streamlined sleeping cars and two modernized heavy-weights assigned to joint service with the CB&Q in the ZEPHYR-ROCKET.
The first streamlined sleeping cars operated by the Rock Island in one of there own trains were those assigned to the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET between Chicago and Colorado Springs-Denver beginning November 12, 1939. For one season the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET carried a Sleeping car between Kansas City and Denver that joined the westbound ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET at Belleville, Kansas and eastbound it was set out at that point. The eastbound sleeping car between Denver and Kansas City operated as a Parlor Car instead of as a sleeping car. The ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET was a double destination train with the westbound train being split at Limon, Colorado in the morning and the two parts continued as separate trains one to Colorado Springs the other to Denver. Each afternoon the Denver and Colorado Springs sections were reassembled at Limon for the trip east to Chicago.
One sleeping car the 8 Section 2 Compartment 2 Double Bedroom and the 30' Railway Post Office 44 revenue seat coach were the Colorado Springs section of the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET. The Denver section of the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET consisted of a Baggage Car, 52-revenue seat Coach, and 32 seat Dining 14 seat Lounge car, 10 Section 4 Roomette Sleeping car, and 5 Double Bedroom Buffet 9 seat Cocktail Lounge 17 seat Lounge Observation. All sleeping cars in the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET were built by Pullman Standard and all other cars came from Budd.

10 SECTION 4 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard October 1939 Plan: 4088 Lot: 6586 (Built for and assigned to ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET between Chicago and Denver)

ODESSA LAKE

LAWN LAKE

8 SECTION 2 COMPARTMENT 2 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard October 1939 Plan: 4058C Lot: 6586 (Built for and assigned to ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET between Chicago and Colorado Springs)

GARDEN OF THE GODS

GRAND MESA

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 9 SEAT COCKTAIL LOUNGE 17 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard October 1939 Plan: 4089 Lot: 6587 (Built for and assigned to ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET between Chicago and Denver)

PHANTOM VALLEY

THUNDER MOUNTAIN

The first named of each sleeping car type operated in one consist and the second named of each sleeping car type operated in the other consist of the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET.
In June 1940 Pullman assigned two Pullman Pool CASCADE series 10 Roomette 5 Double Bedroom sleeping cars to the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKETS as the Kansas City - Denver Sleeping -Parlor cars. The two CASCADE series Sleeping-Parlor cars and two 52 revenue seat coaches comprised the Kansas City - Denver ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET sections. The two CASCADE series sleeping cars operated in this service between June - November 1940 before being replaced by two Rock Island Sleeping cars. The two CASCADE series cars were then transferred to the Santa Fe for operation between Kansas City and Chicago nightly. The two CASCADE series sleeping cars became Santa Fe Property in 1945 and spent their entire Santa Fe operational service in Kansas City - Chicago service.
In November 1940 the Rock Island replaced the two CASCADE series cars with two new sleeping cars delivered by Pullman Standard in November 1940. These new sleeping cars were 8 Section 5 Double Bedroom sleeping cars. The two cars operated in ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET service until September 1943 when the Kansas City - Denver section of the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET was discontinued. The two extra sleeping cars FOREST CANYON and THOMPSON CANYON then became through Colorado Springs - Chicago cars in the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKETS.

8 SECTION 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard November 1940 Plan: 4095 Lot: 6631 (Built for and assigned to ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET initially as Kansas City - Denver cars after September 1943 became Chicago - Colorado Springs cars)

FOREST CANYON

THOMPSON CANYON

The second overnight ROCKET service was the CHOCTAW ROCKET inaugurated November 17, 1940 between Memphis and Amarillo. This route served Little Rock and Oklahoma City the only large cities between Memphis and Amarillo. Each four car CHOCTAW ROCKET operated with a heavyweight Baggage 30' Railway Post Office Car, 68 revenue seat divided Coach, 8 Section 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car, and a 24 seat Dining 16 seat Parlor Observation. The two 8 Section 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars SEMINOLE and WEWOKA were constructed by Pullman Standard to the same plan and lot numbers as the two Kansas City Denver 8 Section 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars.

8 SECTION 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard November 1940 Plan: 4095 Lot: 6631 (Built for and assigned to CHOCTAW ROCKET)

SEMINOLE

WEWOKA

The above two Sleeping cars were replaced by heavyweight 10 Section 2 Double Bedroom 1 Drawing Room Sleeping cars in 1945. The heavyweight 10-2-1 cars operated only between Memphis and Oklahoma City. The train's name changed to simply the CHOCTAW and the ROCKET name was dropped.
On January 7, 1941 the Rock Island and the Burlington inaugurated a new overnight train service jointly between Minneapolis and St. Louis. The new train was named the ZEPHYR - ROCKET after both roads streamliners. The Rock Island operated the trains between Minneapolis and Burlington a distance of 366 miles and the CB&Q operated the trains between Burlington and St. Louis 221 miles. One consist was provided by the Rock Island and one consist was provided by the Burlington. The two trains began service with a single remodeled heavy-weight sleeping car provided service between the terminals. The first sleeping cars were 10 Section 3 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars MINNEAPOLIS and CEDAR RAPIDS. The cars traveled with excellent passenger loads from the beginning of service and two additional remodeled heavy-weight sleeping cars ZEPHYR TOWER and ROCKET TOWER with 8 Sections 1 drawing Room and 3 Double Bedrooms were added in July 1941. In 1948 ZEPHYR TOWER and MINNEAPOLIS became CB&Q owned sleeping cars and ROCKET TOWER and CEDAR RAPIDS became Rock Island owned sleeping cars. At least three displaced prewar 6 Section 6 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars from the GOLDEN STATE were assigned to the ZEPHYR - ROCKET during the 1950's.
Rock Island and the Southern Pacific jointly operated the GOLDEN STATE LIMITED between Chicago and Los Angeles. Rock Island tracks were used between Chicago 0 Kansas City and Tucumcari, from Tucumcari through El Paso, Tucson, Phoenix, and Los Angeles was Southern Pacific.
The first streamlined trains to operate over the GOLDEN STATE route were the ARIZONA LIMITEDS between Chicago and Phoenix. This Pullman owned all Pullman all room train was the second all room all streamlined train to operate west of the Mississippi River the first being the TREASURE ISLAND SPECIAL between Chicago and Oakland. The ARIZONA LIMITED became the only all room all Pullman train to terminate in Phoenix. The ARIZONA LIMITED operated for a period of two winters only 1940-41 and 1941-42 between December and April. The streamlined cars for the two consists of the ARIZONA LIMITED were provided by the Pullman Pool with Rock Island providing two modernized Baggage Crew Dormitory cars 6014 and 6015. The two dining cars were modernized heavyweights provided by the Rock Island 8028 and 8030. Pullman pool provide sleeping cars from the IMPERIAL and CASCADE series with streamlined Sleeper Lounge Observations AMERICAN MILEMASTER and MUSKINGUM RIVER operated the first winter season while AMERICAN MILEMASTER went to the SP as a wreck replacement for their car 400 by the start of the second season. Pullman pool substituted two cars in place of AMERICAN MILEMASTER the articulated streamlined pair BEAR FLAG and CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC. The following lightweight streamlined cars are known to have operated in the ARIZONA LIMITED.

4 COMPARTMENT 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM 2 DRAWING ROOM SLEEPING CARS

IMPERIAL BANNER

IMPERIAL CLIPPER

IMPERIAL GUARD

IMPERIAL THRONE

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS

CASCADE BANKS

CASCADE BASIN

CASCADE BOULDERS

CASCADE GULLY

It has often been said that had it not been for WW II interfering with the operation of the ARIZONA LIMITED that both the Southern Pacific and Rock Island would have operated the train for many additional winters much like the FLORIDA SPECIAL.
The Rock Island and Southern Pacific operated the GOLDEN STATE between Chicago and Los Angeles and had for many years by 1942 when the first streamlined cars were added to the trains. The first cars were 4 Double Bedroom 4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room Sleeping cars 206-216 delivered in March April, 1942 followed by 6 Section 6 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars 500 - 512 in April - May 1942. As originally delivered these cars had numbers only following Southern Pacific practice. Following WW II those cars still in GOLDEN STATE service would receive new paint schemes and names.

4 DOUBLE BEDROOM 4 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard March - April 1942 Plan: 4069H Lot: 6669 (Built for and assigned to GOLDEN STATE)

206 - 216

6 SECTION 6 ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard April - May 1942 Plan: 4099 Lot: 6669 (Built for and assigned to GOLDEN STATE)

500 - 512

Four additional 4 Double Bedroom 4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room Sleeping cars were assigned to the GOLDEN STATES in June 1942. These were the four IMPERIAL series cars hat had operated for two winters in the ARIZONA LIMITEDS. They received numbers in place of their IMPERIAL series names when assigned to the GOLDEN STATES as follows.

217 originally IMPERIAL CLIPPER

218 originally IMPERIAL GUARD

219 originally IMPERIAL THRONE

220 originally IMPERIAL BANNER

In 1945 these cars were transferred to either Rock Island ownership or Southern Pacific ownership as follows.
ROCK ISLAND

206-210, 217, 218
500 - 506

SOUTHERN PACIFIC

211 - 216, 219, 220
507 - 512

Beginning in May the Rock Island began naming all Golden State assigned cars with GOLDEN series names. The Sleeping cars owned by the Rock Island were named as follows.
May 1947

GOLDEN DREAM originally 209

June 1947

GOLDEN BANNER originally 502

July 1947

GOLDEN DESERT originally 206

GOLDEN TERRACE originally 506

August 1947

GOLDEN SUNSET originally 207

GOLDEN CHARIOT originally 503

GOLDEN DOME originally 504

September 1947

GOLDEN HOUR originally 208

GOLDEN WEST originally 210

October 1947

GOLDEN LOCKET originally 500

GOLDEN PLAZA originally 501

GOLDEN MESA originally 505

December 1947

GOLDEN FLEECE ex 217 originally IMPERIAL CLIPPER

GOLDEN DIAL ex 218 originally IMPERIAL GUARD

All of the Southern Pacific owned numbered sleeping cars for GOLDEN STATE service received GOLDEN names in December 1947 as follows.

GOLDEN MISSION originally 211

GOLDEN RIVER originally 212

GOLDEN MOON originally 214

GOLDEN CRAG originally 215

GOLDEN CAVERN ex 219 originally IMPERIAL THRONE

GOLDEN TRAIL ex 220 originally IMPERIAL BANNER

GOLDEN VALLEY originally 507

GOLDEN SEA originally 508

GOLDEN PLAIN originally 509

GOLDEN CLOUD originally 510

GOLDEN CREEK originally 511

GOLDEN CANYON originally 512

By January 4, 1948 when the GOLDEN STATE was introduced as a daily streamliner al of the above sleeping cars had received the new Red and Silver paint scheme adopted for the GOLDEN STATE.
The next Rock Island ROCKET to be inaugurated with sleeping car service was the TWIN STAR ROCKET of January 14, 1945. The new trains used existing equipment from the KANSAS CITY - MINNEAPOLIS ROCKET and TEXAS ROCKETS between Kansas City and Dallas. The new TWIN STAR ROCKET was the longest north south train in the U. S. at the time of its inception. This Minneapolis - Houston train was well received by the traveling public. For streamlined sleeping cars the Rock Island discontinued the second Colorado Springs - Chicago sleeping car operated in the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET FOREST CANYON and THOMPSON CANYON. Initially the sleeping cars operated only between Kansas City and Houston so only two were required to maintain daily service. North of Kansas City parlor car service was provided. Later the other two 8 Section 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars WEWOKA and SEMINOLE were assigned to the TWIN STAR ROCKET as well after the CHOCTAW ROCKET was re-equipped with heavyweight sleeping cars and the Rock Island extended Sleeping car service for the total distance between Minneapolis and Houston.
The first new postwar sleeping cars delivered to the Rock Island were the five cars for the new GOLDEN ROCKET a twice weekly train to operate on matching schedules of 39-3/4 hours between Chicago and Los Angeles. The new GOLDEN ROCKET twice weekly schedule was to be maintained using two sets of equipment one owned by the Rock Island and one owned by the Southern Pacific. Only the Rock Island train set was built and the Southern Pacific canceled theirs after discovering the prohibitive costs of upgrading the Tucumcari - El Paso - Los Angeles line with ATS (Automatic Train Stop). The costs were felt to be prohibitive with only two trains each way weekly using the feature. The complete consists of the two trains are listed below.

ROCK ISLAND GOLDEN ROCKET

820 Baggage 21 Crew Dormitory Car

347 VALLE VERDE 48 Revenue seat Leg Rest Coach

348 VALLE VISTA
48 Revenue seat Leg Rest Coach

349 VALLE MAR
48 Revenue seat Leg Rest Coach

412 EL CAFÉ
32 seat Coffee Shop 20 seat Lounge Car

428 EL COMEDOR 36 seat Dining Car

LA QUINTA
4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room 4 double Bedroom Sleeping Car

660 LA COSTA
22 Roomette Sleeping Car

LA JOLLA
12 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

LA PALMA
12 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

LA MIRADA
2 Double Bedroom 1 Drawing Room Buffet 25 seat High Windowed Lounge Observation

SOUTHERN PACIFIC
GOLDEN ROCKET

UNKNOWN
Baggage 21 Crew Dormitory Car

VALLE RIO GRANDE
48 Revenue seat Leg Rest Coach

VALLE DEL SOL
48 Revenue seat Leg Rest Coach

VALLE IMPERIAL
48 Revenue seat Leg Rest Coach

EL CAFÉ FRONTERO
32 seat Coffee Shop 20 seat Lounge Car

LA FONDA
36 seat Dining Car

MONTE CHIRICAHUA
4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

MONTE SANTA RITA
22 Roomette Sleeping Car

MONTE SAN JACINTO
12 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

MONTE SANTA CATALINA
12 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

LA GALLERIA
2 Double Bedroom 1 Drawing Room Buffet 25 seat High Windowed Lounge Observation

The Rock Island GOLDEN ROCKET cars were assigned to GOLDEN STATE service except for the 22 Roomette car LA COSTA. This car was assigned to operate overnight between Chicago and Des Moines in the CORN BELT ROCKET westbound and in the DES MOINES ROCKET eastbound initially as a parlor car.
Besides the sleeping cars built for the GOLDEN ROCKET the Rock Island received two additional 1 Drawing Room 2 Double Bedroom Buffet 25 seat Lounge Observations built specifically for assignment to the GOLDEN STATE. These two cars were named GOLDEN VISTA and GOLDEN DIVAN.

22 ROOMETTE SLEEEPING CAR Pullman Standard August 1948 Plan: 4122A Lot: 6761 (Built for GOLDEN ROCKET assigned to CORN BELT ROCKET)

LA COSTA

4 COMPARTMENT 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM 2 DRAWING ROOM Pullman Standard August 1948 Plan: 4069L Lot: 6761 (Built for GOLDEN ROCKET assigned to GOLDEN STATE)

LA QUINTA

12 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard August 1948 Plan: 4139 Lot: 6761 (Built for GOLDEN ROCKET assigned to GOLDEN STATE)

LA JOLLA

LA PALMA

1 DRAWING ROOM 2 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT HIGH WINDOWED LOUNGE OBSERVATION Pullman Standard August 1948 Plan: 4127A Lot: 6761 (Built for GOLDEN ROCKET assigned to GOLDEN STATE)

LA MIRADA

1 DRAWING ROOM 2 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard August 1948 (Built for and assigned to GOLDEN STATES)

GOLDEN DIVAN

GOLDEN VISTA

In August - September 1948 Rock Island received five Sleeping cars from Pullman Standard with 6 Roomettes 8 Duplex Roomettes and 4 Double Bedrooms. Each car was named and two of the cars GRANGER and PLAINSMAN were built for the new postwar CORN BELT ROCKET between Chicago and Omaha. The CORN BELT ROCKET was an interesting train that operated westbound overnight and eastbound as a daylight schedule. The eastbound sleeping cars initially traveled east in a heavyweight train named the LA SALLE but this was soon changed to the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET. Besides carrying the westbound sleeping car for Omaha the CORN BELT ROCKET also carried the 22 Roomette Sleeping car LA COSTA to Des Moines where it was set out. Eastbound this car traveled in the DES MOINES ROCKET briefly before it was assigned to the LA SALLE later assigned to the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET eastbound.
The other three sleeping cars GULF COAST, NORTH WOODS and NORTHERN LAKES were the first new sleeping cars assigned to the TWIN STAR ROCKET between Minneapolis and Houston.

6 ROOMETTE 8 DUPLEX ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard August - September 1948 Plan: 4116 Lot: 6761 (Built for and assigned to CORN BELT ROCKET and TWIN STAR ROCKET)

CORN BELT ROCKET

GRANGER

PLAINSMAN

TWIN STAR ROCKET

GULF COAST

NORTH WOODS

NORTHERN LAKES

A final order for twelve 8 Roomette 5 Double Bedroom sleeping cars was received by the Rock Island in November - December 1954 from Pullman Standard.
Four of these cars AIR FORCE ACADEMY, THE BROADMOOR, RAMPART ANGE and TURQUOISE SKY were built for assignment to the ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET with AIR FORCE ACADEMY and THE BROADMOOR Chicago - Colorado Springs Sleeping cars and RAMPART RANGE and TURQUOISE SKY the Chicago - Denver cars.
The cars BUFFALO BAYOU, LAKE NOKOMIS and SAN JACINTO were assigned to service in the TWIN STAR ROCKETS as through Minneapolis - Houston sleeping cars.
The remaining five cars were all assigned GOLDEN prefix names for assignment one per consist to the GOLDEN STATE train sets. These cars were named GOLDEN HORIZON, GOLDEN JOURNEY, GOLDEN MEADOW, GOLDEN SPIRE, and GOLDEN TOWER. These were the last new sleeping cars assigned to the GOLDEN STATES built specifically for that train.

8 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard November - December 1954 (Built for and assigned to ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET, TWIN STAR ROCKET and GOLDEN STATE)

ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET

AIR FORCE ACADEMY

THE BROADMOOR

RAMPART RANGE

TURQUOISE SKY

TWIN STAR ROCKET

BUFFALO BAYOU

LAKE NOKOMIS

SAN JACINTO

GOLDEN STATE

GOLDEN HORIZON

GOLDEN JOURNEY

GOLDEN MEADOW

GOLDEN SPIRE

GOLDEN TOWER

In 1958 the Rock Island added numbers to most of the remaining Sleeping cars still in service. No explanation has ever come forward why several sleeping cars never received numbers yet they continued in Rock Island sleeping car service until the end.

SLEEPER LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS

476 PHANTOM VALLEY

477 THUNDER MOUNTAIN

478 GOLDEN VISTA

479 GOLDEN DIVAN

480 LA MIRADA

PREWAR SLEEPING CARS

610 GARDEN OF THE GODS

611 GRAND MESA

620 FOREST CANYON

621 THOMPSON CANYON

622 SEMINOLE

623 WEWOKA

POSTWAR SLEEPING CARS

630 AIR FORCE ACADEMY

631 THE BROADMOOR

632 RAMPART RANGE

633 TURQUOISE SKY

634 LAKE NOKOMIS

635 BUFFALO BAYOU

636 SAN JACINTO

637 GOLDEN SPIRE

638 GOLDEN TOWER

640 GRANGER

641 PLAINSMAN

642 NORTHERN LAKES

643 GULF COAST

644 NORTH WOODS

650 ODESSA LAKE

651 LAWN LAKE

660 LA COSTA

In October 1955 PHANTOM VALLEY and THUNDER MOUNTAIN were rebuilt for mid train operation and sheet metal was used to square off the rounded Observation ends this was a very amateurish job and were easy to spot. In December 1956 the same kind of squaring off of the Observation end of LA MIRADA took place with just as equally ugly results. At the same time the cars lost their sleeping accommodations and most of the space was opened up as card rooms etc. for the enjoyment of passengers as mid train lounge cars.

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 26, 2006 6:44 AM
ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

More on the Canadian National Railways of the Fallen Flags from The Official Guide of the Railways - Aug 1956

Canadian National Railways



Canadian National

Super Continental - Dieselized all the way

Faster daily service between

MONTREAL - OTTAWA - TORONTO - WINNIPEG - SASKATOON - EDMONTON - JASPER - VANCOUVER

No Extra Fare

Westward - Read down ..................................................Eastward - Read up
Example..........Daily ......................................................... Daily .........Example

Sunday............4 00 P.M. ..... Lv. Montreal ... E.T. .. Ar. ...5 05 P.M. .... Wednesday
Sunday............6 00 P.M. .... Ar. Ottawa........E.T....Lv......3 05 P.M. .....Wednesday
Sunday............6 10 P.M. .... Lv Ottawa.........E.T. ..Ar. ....2 50 P.M. .... Wednesday

Sunday............6 00 P.M. .... Lv. Toronto.......E.T. ..Ar. .....2 15 P.M. ... Wednesday

Monday..........10 25 P.M. ....Ar. Winnipeg.....C.T. ..Lv. .....8 20 A.M. ... Tuesday
Monday..........10 50 P.M. ... Lv. Winnipeg.....C.T. ..Ar. ....7:55 A.M. .... Tuesday
Tuesday......... 8 00 A.M. ... Ar. Saskatoon....M.T. ..Lv. ....8 50 P.M. ... Monday
Tuesday..........8 10 A.M. ....Lv. Saskatoon....M.T. ..Ar. ....8 40 P.M. ... Monday
Tuesday..........3 10 P.M. ...Ar. Edmonton......M.T. ..Lv. ...1 50 P.M. .... Monday
Tuesday..........3 25 P.M. ...Lv. Edmonton......M.T. ..Ar. ...1 35 P.M. .... Monday
Tuesday..........8:55 P.M. ...Ar. Jasper............P.T. ..Lv. ...8 15 A.M. .....Monday
Tuesday..........8 05 P.M. ...Lv. Jasper............P.T. ..Ar. .. 7 05 A.M. .....Monday
Wednesday....1 05 P.M. ....Ar. Vancouver .... P.T. ..Lv. .. 2 45 P.M. .... Sunday

Through deluxe coaches with reclining seats between Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver.
Parlor Car between Montreal and Ottawa only.
Dining Room Refreshment Lounge Car between Toronto and Winnipeg.
Coffee Shop Car between Toronto-Capreol.
............................... between Montreal-Vancouver (until May 31).
............................... between Winnipeg-Vancouver (first trip June 2).
Dining Car between Winnipeg and Vancouver.
Tourist Sleeping Cars between Montreal-Toronto and Vancouver.
Drawing room, compartment, double bedrooms, duplex roomette, lower and upper berth accommodation available in latest type standard sleepers between Montreal-Toronto and Vancouver.
Attractive lounge accommodation for standard sleeping car passengers.

NOTE: Perhaps our Canadian friends can elaborate on what appears to be discrepancies with the time zones. In current times, Saskatoon is on Central Time and Jasper is Mountain Time. Don't know why in 1956 the time zones were listed this way ... Perhaps the zone maps were different back then. Anyone know [?]

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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, June 26, 2006 7:41 AM
CANADIAN
NATIONAL
Streamlined Sleeping Cars
by Al

The Canadian National Railway operated trains in every Province of Canada the only one of the two transcontinental systems to do so. The Canadian National operated passenger trains in each Canadian Province. But passenger trains with sleeping cars were also operated in every Canadian Province. The vastness of Canada can only be appreciated when one rides a train from Coast to Coast across Canada from Halifax to Vancouver via the CN. Another route was St. John to Vancouver via CP. Unfortunately today one can ride the VIA Rail train from Halifax to Vancouver only using the former CN route. Instead of catching the western train in Montreal today one boards in Toronto so one has to ride three different trains instead of two to travel coast to coast.
The Canadian National was one of the largest operators of passenger trains and owners of Sleeping cars in North America. The CNR not only placed large orders for streamlined Sleeping cars with Pullman Standard in the 1950's but would later purchase many used sleeping cars from U. S. roads as there requirements for these type of cars diminished as services ended on many routes. The CN even leased sleeping cars during the Expo - 67 Worlds Fair in Montreal from several U.S. Railroads.
The Canadian National owned by the Government of Canada during this period was probably the most aggressive railroad in North America when it came to promoting rail passenger travel.
The Canadian National had purchased large numbers of heavyweight sleeping cars prior to WW II and was in reasonably good shape following the war when they undertook a program of modernizing many of these older Sleeping cars. The work included either Turtle Roof or arch roof, modern Double Pane Safety glass windows and newer air conditioning and refurbishing of interiors. The work included repainting inside and out. Rival Canadian Pacific had embarked on a similar program with their older sleeping cars about the same time.
The first car to be completed was the 1063 FORT NIPIGON a 1 Drawing Room 4 Compartment Buffet Solarium Observation. After completion of the modernization the car had a turtle roof sealed double pane safety glass installed throughout as well as new paint both inside and outside. All thirteen of the cars in this series built in June 1920 by Canadian Car & Foundry were likewise rebuilt. Between 1963-65 the CN rebuilt this series of cars to Club - Lounge cars for assignment to transcontinental trains. At that time the cars roofs became arch roof during this second rebuilding. The following is a list of these cars after their first rebuilding and modernization.

1060 FORT PITT modernized August 1948

1061 FORT PEMBINA modernized September 1949

1062 FORT ALEXANDER modernized August 1948

1063 FORT NIPIGON modernized December 1946

1064 FORT RESOLUTION modernized August 1949

1065 FORT ELLICE modernized June 1949

1066 FORT SIMPSON modernized July 1948

1067 FORT DUNVEGAN modernized May 1949

1068 FORT HOWE modernized July 1948

1069 FORT WILLIAM modernized July 1949

1070 FORT CUMBERLAND modernized July 1949

1071 FORT AUGUSTUS modernized July 1948

1072 FORT FRASER modernized August 1948

The CN modernized nine additional cars in the FORT series as follows. Two of these were rebuilt from CAPE series cars and renamed in the FORT series. All FORT series cars were assigned to the CONTINENTAL and OCEAN as well as other premier trains of the CNR.

1073 FORT BRABANT modernized September 1949

1074 FORT STEELE modernized September 1949

1075 FORT CHAMBLY modernized February 1950

1076 FORT CREVIER modernized January 1950

1077 FORT FRANCES modernized September 1949

1079 FORT GEORGE modernized February 1950

1080 FORT HENRY modernized August 1953 ex CN 1191 CAPE CANSO

1081 FORT ST. JAMES modernized July 1953 ex CN 1192 CAPE CHIGNECTO

CN modernized and rebuilt former 12 Section 1 Drawing Room Sleeping Car 1564 BRANTFORD in September 1947 as an 8 Section 2 Compartment 1 Drawing Room Sleeping Car and renumbered the car 1800 BRANTFORD at that time. The rebuilding included turtle roof sealed double pane safety glass windows. During the rebuild one vestibule was removed giving these cars modern single vestibules. These cars originally built in September - October 1923 were modern in every respect after rebuilding and were assigned to the CONTINENTAL and OCEAN the CNR top trains. The cars were modernized as follows.

1800 BRANTFORD modernized September 1947 ex CN 1564 BRANTFORD

1801 REGINA modernized November 1948 ex CN 1579 REGINA

1802 BATTLEFORD modernized
December 1948 ex CN 1562 BATTLEFORD

1803 HAMILTON modernized December 1948 ex CN 1568 HAMILTON

1804 MELVILLE modernized January 1949 ex CN 1576 MELVILLE

1805 ST. ANNES modernized February 1949 ex CN 1584 ST. ANNES

1806 ST. CATHERINES modernized February 1949 ex CN 1583 ST. CATHERINES

1807 CAMPBELLTON modernized May 1949 ex CN 1565 CAMPBELLTON

1808 PAISLEY ex CN 1808 INGERSOLL modernized December 1948 ex CN 1569 INGERSOLL

1809 WAINWRIGHT modernized February 1949 ex CN 1585 WAINWRIGHT

1810 HALIFAX modernized May 1949 ex CN 1561 AMHERST

1811 BIGGAR modernized November 1948 ex CN 1563 BIGGAR

1812 MATAPEDIA modernized November 1948 ex CN 1575 MATAPEDIA

1813 PEMBROKE modernized December 1948 ex CN 1578 PEMBROKE

1814 LINDSAY modernized December 1948 ex CN 1573 LINDSAY

1815 ALLANDALE modernized January 1949 ex CN 1560 ALLANDALE

1816 WATROUS modernized January 1949 ex CN 1586 WATROUS

1817 GODERICH modernized February 1949 ex CN 1567 GODERICH

1818 WINDSOR modernized February 1949 ex CN 1587 WINDSOR

1819 JELLICOE modernized November 1948 ex CN 1570 JELLICOE

1820 ALGONQUIN modernized January 1949 ex CN 1559 ALGONQUIN

The Canadian National received their first lightweight streamlined sleeping cars between October 1949 and March 1950 when Canadian Car & Foundry delivered the (I) series 24 Duplex Roomette Sleeping cars. When delivered the I series cars numbered 2000 to 2019 were the last cars built for the Canadian National new to ride on six wheel trucks. All subsequent orders for new lightweight streamlined sleeping cars would ride on four wheel trucks. The Canadian National assigned theses cars the CONTINENTAL both between Montreal and Vancouver and Toronto and Vancouver. They were the first fully modern sleeping cars assigned to these trains and were also assigned to the Montreal - Halifax OCEAN and other schedules. When the popularity of the Duplex Roomette waned on the CN the cars were rebuilt to Day-Niter Coaches or to Crew Dormitory cars and several became Baggage Crew Dormitory cars as well. The cars lasted into VIA Rail Canada service but not as 24 Duplex Roomette Cars. The Santa Fe was the only other North American Railroad to purchase 24 Duplex Roomette Sleeping cars, their INDIAN series cars. When the AT&SF INDIAN series cars ran into the problem of empty Duplex Roomettes they returned theirs to Pullman Calumet who rebuilt the Santa Fe INDIAN series into 11 Double Bedroom cars and assigned them to the SUPER CHIEF.

24 DUPLEX ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Canadian Car & Foundry October 1949 - March 1950 Plan: 4100C (I-series)
(Built for and assigned to CONTINENTAL OCEAN CAVALIER and GENERAL SERVICE)

2000 INDIGO

2001 INGELOW

2002 INGRAMPORT

2003 INGERSOLL

2004 INKERMAN

2005 INNES

2006 INVERNESS

2007 INWOOD

2008 IONA

2009 INGONISH

2010 INVERMAY

2011 INTERVALE

2012 IRIS

2013 IRMA

2014 IRONDALE

2015 IROQUOIS

2016 IRVINE

2017 ISABELLA

2018 ISLEVIEW

2019 ITUNA

The Canadian National needing to modernize additional heavyweight sleeping cars turned to two classes of 12 Section 1 Drawing Room Cars for this new modernizing program. These cars were given Arch roofs and modern sealed double safety glass windows. The cars retained their twin vestibules. These cars were assigned to trains coast to coast and many were not retired until the late 1970s so they operated in even the SUPER CONTINENTAL. Rebuilding of these cars began in 1949 for the first series numbered 1614 - 1643 as follows.

1614 BRAMPTON modernized November 1949

1615 CHICOUTIMI modernized November 1949

1616 COLLINGWOOD modernized September 1952

1617 DALHOUSIE modernized September 1949

1618 DARTMOUTH modernized April 1952

1619 DRUMHELLER modernized October 1952

1620 FARNHAM modernized November 1952

1621 GALT modernized October 1951

1622 GRANBY modernized December 1951

1623 GRAND'MERE modernized December 1949

1624 JOLIETTE modernized June 1951

1625 KELOWNA modernized November 1949

1626 LACHUTE modernized March 1950

1627 LISTOWEL modernized June 1951

1628 MAISONNEUVE modernized December 1949

1629 MELFORT modernized June 1952

1630 NIAGARA FALLS modernized April 1950

1631 ORILLIA modernized September 1951

1632 PETERBORO modernized September 1949

1633 PICTOU modernized September 1949

1634 PRESTON modernized September 1949

1635 RENFREW modernized November 1951

1636 ROBERVAL modernized February 1952

1637 ROUYN modernized October 1949

1638 SHEDIAC modernized May 1952

1639 SHERBROOKE modernized May 1952

1640 SIOUX LOOKOUT modernized July 1951

1641 ST. THOMAS modernized October 1952

1642 GRIMSBY modernized December 1949

1643 HUNTSVILLE modernized January 1950

The second series of 12 Section 1 Drawing Room Sleeping cars modernized were the Confederation Class named for the fathers of Confederation. These cars were arch roofed and had a double vestibule. They also received large double paned safety glass windows. The Confederation series heavyweight Sleeping cars were originally built for the Canadian National Railway by Canadian Car & Foundry Company in April - May 1927. The Canadian National assigned these cars system - wide and they were not retired until the 1970s. Only the following cars were modernized.

1644 ARCHIBALD modernized August 1951

1645 BROWN modernized June 1952

1646 CAMPBELL modernized April 1952

1647 CARTIER modernized April 1952

1649 CHAPAIS modernized September 1952

1650 FISHER modernized March 1952

1651 GALT modernized February 1951

1653 HENRY modernized January 1952

1656 MACDONALD modernized July 1952

1657 McCULLY modernized March 1951

1658 McDOUGALL modernized April 1951

1659 McGEE modernized July 1950

1661 TACHE modernized February 1952

1662 TILLEY modernized August 1952

1663 TUPPER modernized November 1951

Canadian National rebuilt eleven 12 Section 1 Drawing Room Sleeping cars into 8 Section 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars and assigned these cars to the CONTINENTAL. These cars were rebuilt and modernized when demand for private rooms was growing and Section space was just beginning to fall off somewhat. The cars gave up 1500 and 1600 series numbers for new numbers 1800 and ISLAND series names. Later they would even operate in the SUPER CONTINENTAL.

2180 REINDEER ISLAND modernized September 1954 ex CN 1566 DORVAL

2181 BOWEN ISLAND modernized December 1954 ex CN 1571 KITCHENER

2182 BEARTOOTH ISLAND modernized October 1954 ex CN 1574 LONDON

2183 BELL ISLAND modernized May 1954 ex CN 1577 OSHAWA

2184 ELK ISLAND modernized December 1954 ex CN 1580 RESTIGOUCHE

2185 GEORGE ISLAND modernized January 1955 ex CN 1582 STRATFORD

2186 RESOLUTION ISLAND modernized November 1954 ex CN 1588 WOODSTOCK

2187 RUSTICO ISLAND modernized April 1954 ex CN 1648 CHANDLER

2188 ANTICOSTI ISLAND modernized April 1954 ex CN 1652 GRAY

2189 PELEE ISLAND modernized June 1954 ex CN 1654 JOHNSON

2190 MISCOU ISLAND modernized December 1953 ex CN 1660 MOWAT

Canadian National inspite of being government owned was always mindful of what chief rival Canadian Pacific was up to. When the latter announced it was streamlining passenger services in 1954-55 Canadian National was quick to follow suit. The difference was Canadian National would need many more streamlined cars than the Canadian Pacific due to the fact they operated a far more extensive network of routes than the Canadian Pacific did. The Canadian Pacific purchased their new fleet of cars from one manufacturer Budd while Canadian National placed orders with Canadian Car & Foundry, National Steel Car, and Pullman Standard. All of the new Canadian National Sleeping cars were purchased from Pullman Standard with that manufacturer delivering the completed cars to CN except for Mattresses and Bedding, which were supplied, by a Canadian manufacturer. The Dining, Lounge and Sleeper combinations were delivered with only the sleeping car part of the cars in place. The Dining and Lounge facilities were added in Canada after the cars were delivered to the CN.
In late 1951 and most of 1952 the CN undertook a program of modernizing 14 Section Tourist Sleeping cars. This included installing larger Thermopane @ windows, new Air Conditioning, new interior paint and carpeting, new mattresses, and new window shades. These modernized cars were completed as follows by CN shops and assigned to the CONTINENTAL between Montreal- Toronto and Vancouver along with 14 Section unmodified cars.

DECEMBER 1951

2250 POINTE PLATON

JANUARY 1952

2247 POINTE LA NIM

MARCH 1952

2249 POINTE AU PIC

2255 POINT WOLFE

APRIL 1952


2253 POINTE SAPIN

JUNE 1952

2248 POINTE PARENT

2251 POINT PRIM

JULY 1952

2246 POINTE NAVARRE

AUGUST 1952

2252 POINTE DE ROCHE

Beginning in December 1953 the Canadian National shops were busy once again rebuilding 14 Section Tourist Sleeping cars into streamlined 14-Section Tourist Sleeping cars. These cars were being rebuilt in anticipation of the new cars from Pullman Standard for the SUPER CONTINENTAL. The Cars were completed as follows.

DECEMBER 1953

2242 POINTE LEBEL

FEBRUARY 1954

2235 POINT CROSS

MARCH 1954

2233 POINT COMFORT

MAY 1954

2227 POINTE BLEUE

JUNE 1954

2230 POINT CARRE

JULY 1954

2229 POINTE CALUMET

2231 POINTE DUCHENE

SEPTEMBER 1954

2232 POINT CLAIRE

OCTOBER 1954

2234 POINT CREWE

NOVEMBER 1954

2226 POINTE BASSE

DECEMBER 1954

2241 POINTE LANCE

The SUPER CONTINENTAL began service in April 1955 using the 11 streamlined 14 Section Tourist Sleeping cars and the 9 modernized cars of this type from the CONTINENTAL.
By early 1956 the CN was aware that additional streamlined 14 Section tourist sleeping cars were needed for the SUPER CONTINENTAL. This would return the modernized 14 Section tourist sleeping cars to the CONTINENTAL.
The CN streamlined 11 additional heavyweight 14-Section tourist sleeping cars as follows for assignment to the SUPER CONTINENTAL. This gave the CN 22 streamlined 14-Section Tourist Sleeping cars and 9 modernized 14 Section Tourist Sleeping cars.

FEBRUARY 1956

2228 POINTE DE BUTE

MARCH 1956

2237 POINTE AU GAUL

APRIL 1956

2243 POINT MAY

JUNE 1956

2244 POINTE MICHAUDE

MARCH 1957

2245 POINTE DES MONTS

APRIL 1957

2238 POINT GARDINER

2239 POINT GREY

MAY 1957

2240 POINT IDEAL

2254 POINT TUPPER

JUNE 1957

2225 POINT ACONI

2236 POINT EDWARD

In 1969 the SUPER CONTINENTAL became the first train in North America to offer coach passengers three types of accommodations. There was standard coach the new Day-Niter Coaches and the CN " I " series 22 Duplex Roomette Sleeping cars became available for Coach fare plus a modest space charge. This was long after the 14 Section Tourist Sleeping cars were retired from the SUPER CONTINENTAL.
The Canadian National began receiving the first of the new lightweight streamlined sleeping cars from Pullman Standard beginning in January 1954. This was the E series Sleeping cars with 4 Sections 4 Double Bedrooms and 8 Duplex Roomettes. Final delivery of the last of 52 E series sleeping cars would not take place until April, 1954. The E series cars were assigned to the new SUPER CONTINENTAL becoming the most numerous cars in that train. Several E series sleeping cars ran in international service leased to Pullman. Two services the E series operated in were the MAPLE LEAF between Toronto and New York on the CN and LV, the other train was the INTERNATIONAL LIMITED between Toronto and Chicago. In later years other sleeping cars would also be assigned to the SUPER CONTINENTAL and many E series cars then ran in other CN trains. The sections were located at the blind end with the Bedrooms in the center of the car and the Duplex Roomettes were located at the vestibule end of the cars. All 52 cars in the E series were transferred to VIA Rail Canada ownership in March 1978. Those cars that operated in Pullman lease are identified by (P) following the name.

4 SECTION 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM 8 DUPLEX ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard January - April 1954 Plan: 4124A Lot: 6922 (Built for and assigned to SUPER CONTINENTAL and International services)

1110 EASTPORT

1111 EASTVIEW

1112 EDENWOLD

1113 EDGELEY

1114 EDMONTON

1115 EDMUNDSTON

1116 EDSON

1117 EDWARDSVILLE

1118 EGERTON

1119 EKHART

1120 ELCOTT (P)

1121 ELDERBANK(P)

1122 EXCELSIOR (P)

1123 ELGIN (P)

1124 ELIZABETH (P)

1125 ELLERSLIE (P)

1126 ELLISTON (P)

1127 ELMIRA (P)

1128 ELMSDALE

1129 ELNORA

1130 ELROSE

1131 EMERALD

1132 EMERSON

1133 EMPEROR

1134 ENDAKO

1135 ENDCLIFFE

1136 ENDEAVOUR

1137 ENFIELD

1138 ENGLEE

1139 ENNISHORE

1140 ENTERPRISE

1141 ENTRANCE

1142 ENTWHISTLE

1143 EQUITY

1144 ERICKSON

1145 ERINVIEW

1146 ERNESTOWN

1147 ERWOOD

1148 ESCUMINAC

1149 ESSEX

1150 ESTCOURT

1151 ETHELBERT

1152 EUCLID

1153 EUREKA

1154 EVANDALE

1155 EVANGELINE

1156 EVANSTON

1157 EVELYN

1158 EVERETT

1159 ELDORADO

1160 EXETER

1161 EXTEW

The GREEN series 6 Section 4 Double Bedroom 6 Roomette Sleeping cars purchased by the CN were the next most numerous with 20 cars. Delivery from Pullman Standard took place in April - May 1954. Once a gain the Bedrooms in these lightweight streamlined cars were located in the center with sections at the blind end and Roomettes at the vestibule end. CN assigned these cars to International service and trains from Montreal to the Maritime Provinces of Canada such as the OCEAN and SCOTIAN. Those GREEN series cars assigned to Pullman lease are identified with a (P) following the name.

6 SECTION 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM 6 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard April - May 1954 Plan: 4183A Lot: 6923 (Built for General Service and International service)

1162 GREEN POINT (P)

1163 GREENMOUNT (P)

1164 GREEN BROOK (P)

1165 GREEN COURT (P)

1166 GREENING (P)

1167 GREEN CABIN (P)

1168 GREEN SHIELDS (P)

1169 GREEN BUSH (P)

1170 GREENFIELD (P)

1171 GREEN HARBOUR (P)

1172 GREEN HILL (P)

1173 GREEN LANE (P)

1174 GREEN VIEW (P)

1175 GREENVALE (P)

1176 GREENWAY (P)

1177 GREEN BANK

1178 GREENBRIER

1179 GREEN RIDGE

1180 GREENWOOD

1181 GREENWICH

The CAPE series 2 Compartment 2 Double Bedroom Buffet 28 seat Lounge cars numbered eight and were initially assigned to the SUPER CONTINENTAL providing lounge space to he sleeping car passengers and were train lined behind the dining cars ahead of the sleeping cars. Half of these cars were designated as Pullman leased cars but it is doubtful if they ever left Canada after delivery. CN operated these cars in Maritime trains after full lounge cars were assigned to the SUPER CONTINENTALS.

2 COMPARTMENT 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 28 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Pullman Standard May 1954 Plan: 4189A Lot: 6928 (Built for and assigned to SUPER CONTINENTALS later Maritime trains)

1082 CAPE ROSIER

1083 CAPE BRULE

1084 CAPE PORCUPINE

1085 CAPE RACE

1086 CAPE CANSO (P)

1087 CAPE BRETON (P)

1088 CAPE CHIGNECTO (P)

1089 CAPE TORMENTINE (P)

Two of the stranger cars purchased from Pullman Standard were a pair of 7 Compartment Buffet Lounge Open Platform Observations named BURRARD and BEDFORD. The names came from the opposite sides of Canada BEDFORD was the turning basin adjoining Halifax Harbour and BURRARD was named for an inlet of Vancouver Harbour on the West Coast. These two cars were delivered in May 1954 to the CNR and were assigned for most of their CN service lives to Toronto. The pair were used for Bank charters and other charter work mainly and always seemed to be busy during federal elections with politicians chartering the cars.
The only scheduled service the two were ever assigned to was in the Montreal - Toronto AFTERNOON RAPIDOS as Executive Club cars beginning in April 1968. The cars were withdrawn for lack of passengers willing to pay the extra fare over and above Club car rate.
Both cars were transferred to VIA Rail Canada in March 1978 but saw even less service for the national passenger carrier then they had for the CNR.
It is believed these were the last two cars constructed new with Open Platforms that were not for Business car use.

7 COMPARTMENT BUFFET 8 SEAT LOUNGE OPEN PLATFORM OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard May 1954 Plan: 4190 Lot: 6935 (Built for and assigned to Charter Service)

1098 BURRARD

1099 BEDFORD

Canadian National purchased six BAY series Sleeping cars with 10 Roomettes and 5 Double Bedrooms from Pullman Standard and named for BAYS. The BAY series sleeping cars numbered six and were assigned to the OCEAN between Montreal and Halifax and to the INTERNATIONAL LIMITED between Montreal and Chicago initially. That is the reason for three of the cars assigned to Pullman lease. Eventually these cars would operate in Eastern Canada only in the OCEAN, SCOTIAN and CAVALIER. Those BAY series cars in Pullman Lease are identified with (P) following car name.

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard June 1954 Plan: 4186A Lot: 6925 (Built for and assigned to OCEAN and INTERNATIONAL LIMITED)

2022 BUCKLEY BAY (P)

2023 HUDSON BAY (P)

2024 CHALEUR BAY

2025 GLACE BAY (P)

2026 THUNDER BAY

2027 FORTUNE BAY

The most luxurious cars as far as accommodation went were the six MOUNT series 5 Compartment 3 Drawing Room cars delivered by Pullman in June 1954. These cars were initially assigned to the SUPER CONTINENTAL between Montreal and Vancouver but the Drawing Rooms were rarely sold out later they assigned the cars to the Toronto - Vancouver SUPER CONTINENTAL where they were full for a greater period of the year. All six were later transferred to Montreal - Toronto service in the CAVALIER, Montreal - Halifax service in both the OCEAN and SCOTIAN. All six were transferred to VIA Rail Canada in March 1978.

5 COMPARTMENT 3 DRAWING ROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard June 1954 Plan: 4187A Lot: 6926 (Built for and initially assigned to SUPER CONTINENTAL)

1100 MOUNT EDITH CAVELL

1101 MOUNT ROBSON

1102 MOUNT ALBREDA

1103 MOUNT FITZWILLIAMS

1104 MOUNT RESPLENDENT

1105 MOUNT TEKARRA

The next two types of cars delivered to the CNR by Pullman Standard the VALLEY series and WHITE series. The WHITE series consisted of four cars with 8 Sections 1 Double Bedroom Buffet 16 Seat Dinettes. The WHITE series cars were assigned to the SUPER CONTINENTAL between Capreol, Ont. and Winnipeg for local services. The cars were instead assigned to the CONTINENTAL becoming the first streamlined new cars assigned to this train. The VALLEY series were 10 Section 1 Double Bedroom Buffet 8 Seat Dinette Cars. The six VALLEY series cars were assigned to remote services in Northern Ontario and Quebec. As Air Service improved to these remote areas the train became less important to the transportation needs of the people residing there and the CNR was finding less use for the cars with each passing year. By 1964 the CN removed the cars from remote service rebuilding the WHITE series into Dining Lounge cars and the VALLEY series were rebuilt into Dining Cars.

8 SECTION 1 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 16 SEAT DINETTE CARS Pullman Standard June 1954 Plan: 4188 Lot: 6927 (Built for and initially assigned to SUPER CONTINENTAL and CONTINENTAL)

1010 WHITE ROCK

1011 WHITE RAPIDS

1012 WHITE OAK

1013 WHITE SAND

10 SECTION 1 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 8 SEAT DINETTE CARS Pullman Standard July 1954 (Built for and assigned to Remote Services)

1014 VALLEYFIELD

1015 VALLEY MILLS

1016 VALLEY PARK

1017 VALLEY RIVER

1018 VALLEY ROAD

1019 VALLEY VIEW

The Canadian National took a refreshing course in 1958 - 1959 when they bucked the trend of many Railroads who just wanted out of the passenger business. The CN chose to attract passengers back to the trains with an innovative Red, White and Blue fare structure. These reduced fares were for both coach and first class travel, and all-inclusive fares for first class that included sleeping car space and meals were also introduced. Originally instituted between Montreal and the Maritimes only by the spring schedule changes it was introduced system wide. The growth in service between Montreal and the Maritimes was nothing short of spectacular. The CN was astounded at the increase in passenger loads and had not witnessed this kind of increase since the war years 1939-1946. With every heavyweight sleeping car pressed into service that was serviceable the CNR was forced to look for additional sleeping cars in order to sustain the growth. The CNR purchased 32 sleeping cars from the NYC. These cars were all pre WW II lightweight streamlined cars. Eight of the cars were originally IMPERIAL series cars that dated to 1938-40 with 4 Compartments 2 Drawing Rooms 4 Double Bedrooms. These cars had served on the NYC TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED and several were renamed for BRIDGES in 1949 for continued TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED service. The CN received the cars in December 1958 and before entering service they underwent a major rebuilding by the CN not entering service for their new owner until April 1959. The CN assigned these cars to the SUPER CONTINENTAL one per consist and assigned COVE series names to these cars. Three of the cars CN 1182-1184 were originally built by Pullman Standard in March - April 1938 for the NYC TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED to Plan: 4069B Lot: 6540. Two of the cars CN 1187 and 1189 were built by Pullman Standard in July - August 1939 to Plan: 4069D lot: 6571. The remaining three 1185,1186,and 1188 were built by Pullman Standard in September - October 1940 to Plan: 4069E Lot: 6617. All of the COVE series sleeping cars were retired between 1970 and 1972.

1182 AULD COVE ex NYC 10023 CASTLETON BRIDGE originally NYC 10023 IMPERIAL COURT

1183 GUNNING COVE ex NYC 10020 HENRY HUDSON BRIDGE originally NYC 10020 IMPERIAL CANYON

1184 CHINOOK COVE ex NYC 10028 TRI-BORO BRIDGE originally NYC 10028 IMPERIAL GARDEN

1185 SHIP COVE originally NYC 10008 IMPERIAL CITY

1186 BEAVER COVE originally NYC 10019 IMPERIAL MAJESTY

1187 BRILLIANT COVE originally NYC 10011 IMPERIAL QUEEN

1188 KING'S COVE originally NYC 10009 IMPERIAL TEMPLE

1189 SEAL COVE originally NYC 10001 IMPERIAL SCEPTER

The other 24 cars delivered to the CN by NYC in June 1958 were Roomette cars. Ten of these cars were 17 Roomette 1 Section Sleeping Cars and the other fourteen were 18 Roomette Sleeping cars. These cars were all prewar sleeping cars. The 17 Roomette 1 Section Sleeping cars dated to March - April 1938 and were built for the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED. These Pullman Standard built cars were delivered by Pullman Standard to Plan: 4068E in Lot: 6539. The CN originally planned to name the cars with SOUTH prefix names but decided against this as the SOUTH prefix names were reserved for only the 18 Roomette cars. The 17 Roomette 1 Section Sleepers were assigned WEST prefix names instead. The proposed SOUTH prefix names and 1800 series numbers are shown in parenthesis following the 2000 series number and WEST prefix name.

2028 WESTBANK (1812 SOUTH BATHURST) originally NYC 10302 CITY OF ALBANY

2029 WEST END (1813 SOUTH BAY) originally NYC 10303 CITY OF BOSTON

2030 WESTLOCK (1814 SOUTHFIELD) originally NYC 10309 CITY OF BUFFALO

2031 WEST RIVER (1815 SOUTH FALLS) originally NYC 10306 CITY OF CHICAGO

2032 WESTVILLE (1816 SOUTHFRASER) originally NYC 10307 CITY OF CLEVELAND

2033 WESTCHESTER (1817 SOUTHGATE RIVER) originally NYC 10300 CITY OF DAYTON

2034 WESTGATE (1818 SOUTH HARBOUR) originally NYC 10301 CITY OF DETROIT

2035 WESTPORT (1819 SOUTH INDIAN LAKE) originally NYC 10304 CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS

2036 WEST SHEFFORD (1820 SOUTHVALE) originally NYC 10305 CITY OF ROCHESTER

2037 WESTWOLD (1821 SOUTHWARK) originally NYC 10308 CITY OF TOLEDO

The fourteen 18 Roomette Sleeping cars were originally built by Pullman Standard in two lots. NYC 10310 - 10317 were constructed by Pullman Standard in June - July 1939 to Plan: 4068H Lot: 6570 and NYC 10318 - 10323 were constructed by Pullman Standard in September 1940 to Plan: 4068J Lot: 6616. The NYC assigned these cars to general service. After repainting and giving the cars any refurbishing necessary they and the 17 Roomette 1 Section Sleeping cars were assigned by the CN to General Service and could be found in service from Coast to Coast. All of these prewar cars were retired by CN before VIA Rail Canada.

2038 SOUTH END originally NYC 10314 CITY OF ANN ARBOR

2039 SOUTH BROOK originally NYC 10316 CITY OF PITTSFIELD

2040 SOUTH ELBOW originally NYC 10319 CITY OF SCHENECTADY

2041 SOUTH NELSON originally NYC 10312 CITY OF SPRINGFIELD

2042 SOUTH PARRY originally NYC 10313 CITY OF SYRACUSE

2043 SOUTHPORT originally NYC 10321 CITY OF TROY

2044 SOUTH MAGNETAWAN originally NYC 10310 CITY OF WORCESTER

2045 SOUTH BRANCH originally NYC 10323 CITY OF KALAMAZOO

2046 SOUTH DURHAM originally NYC 10315 CITY OF LANSING

2047 SOUTH MARCH originally NYC 10320 CITY OF PEORIA

2048 SOUTH PARIS originally NYC 10318 CITY OF POUGHKEEPSIE

2049 SOUTH PORCUPINE originally NYC 10317 CITY OF SOUTH BEND

2050 SOUTH RIVER originally NYC 10311 CITY OF UTICA

2051 SOUTHWOLD originally NYC 10322 CITY OF YONKERS

Six Months later in January 1959 the CNR received twenty-three 22 Roomette Sleeping Cars from the NYC. These postwar cars were built by Pullman Standard and delivered to the NYC in September - October 1948 to Plan: 4122 in Lot: 6790. The NYC had assigned these cars to General Service when they arrived on the property. Just over ten years old the NYC was selling them to other roads as their own sleeping car services had no further need for such large numbers of sleeping cars. This was due to the dramatic downturn in passenger revenues on roads such as the NYC. After repainting the cars the CN assigned them to general service and assigned VAL prefix names to the cars as well as numbers. All of these cars were transferred to VIA Rail Canada except 2065 VALMONT and 2072 VAL ROYAL both scrapped before VIA Rail Canada came into existence in March 1978.

2052 VAL ALAIN originally NYC 10400 CAMINADA BAY

2053 VAL BRILLANT originally NYC 10423 DORCAS BAY

2054 VALCARTIER originally NYC 10428 SANDY HOOK BAY

2055 VAL COTE originally NYC 10404 TRAVERSE BAY

2056 VALCOURT originally NYC 10430 GARDINERS BAY

2057 VAL D'AMOUR originally NYC 10435 HUNTINGTON BAY

2058 VAL D'ESPOIR originally NYC 10420 SODUS BAY

2059 VAL D'OR originally NYC 10437 CASCO BAY

2060 VAL DOUCHET originally NYC 10424 DORCHESTER BAY

2061 VALHALLA originally NYC 10405 THREE MILE BAY

2062 VAL JALBERT originally NYC 10425 CHESAPEAKE BAY

2063 VALJEAN originally NYC 10442 GREAT PECONIC BAY

2064 VAL MARIE originally NYC 10406 JAMES BAY

2065 VALMONT originally NYC 10438 CHAUMONT BAY

2066 VALOIS originally NYC 10418 HUMBER BAY

2067 VALPARAISO originally NYC 10443 THUNDER BAY

2068 VALPOY originally NYC 10422 DELAWARE BAY

2069 VALRITA originally NYC 10417 HAVERSTRAW BAY

2070 VAL ST. PATRICE originally NYC 10433 SAN FRANCISCO BAY

2071 VAL CAGNE originally NYC 10434 SHEEPSHEAD BAY

2072 VAL ROYAL originally NYC 10412 QUINCY BAY

2073 VAL ROSE originally NYC 10411 PIGEON BAY

2074 VAL ST. MICHEL originally NYC 10419 SMITHTOWN BAY

In June 1964 the CN obtained what many railroad historians felt were the finest lightweight stream-lined Sleeper Lounge Observations ever built the SKYTOP cars from the Milwaukee Road. The Milwaukee Road built four similar cars that were Parlor Observations for the MORNING and AFTERNOON HIAWATHAS. The six SKYTOPS mentioned here are those six 8 Double Bedroom 14 seat SKYTOP Lounge Observations built for the OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA for operation between Chicago and Seattle-Tacoma by Pullman Standard between November 1948 - January 1949. These CREEK suffix cars were built to Pullman Plan: 4138 in Lot: 6775. The CN after refurbishing and repainting in the Black and White Scheme with Red-Orange lazy three logo were assigned to the OCEAN, and SCOTIAN trains between Montreal and the Halifax. The remaining two cars of this class were assigned to the Montreal - Toronto AFTERNOON RAPIDOS for a brief period of time before they were transferred to the west for the Edmonton - Jasper - Prince Rupert SKEENA. The SKYVIEW cars as the CN referred to the former SKYTOPS were ruled unsafe for human occupancy by Transport Canada and banned from further rail use in 1977 as they only had a single entrance - exit.

1900 MAHONE originally CMSTP&P 12 ALDER CREEK

1901 MALPEQUE originally CMSTP&P 14 ARROW CREEK

1902 FUNDY originally CMSTP&P 15 COFFEE CREEK

1903 TRINITY originally CMSTP&P 16 GOLD CREEK

1904 BADDECK originally CMSTP&P 17 MARBLE CREEK

1905 GASPE originally CMSTP&P 18 SPANISH CREEK

Fourteen used sleeping cars arrived on the CN in February 1965 from two different U.S. roads From The Bangor and Aroostook came the only two lightweight streamlined sleeping cars ever purchased by that road a pair of 6 Section 6 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars delivered by Pullman Standard in November - December 1954. These cars were built to Plan: 4194 in Lot: 6942. The two Bangor and Aroostook cars were part of a six car order with the other four being delivered to the Boston & Maine and used in pool service with the BAR cars. The four ex B & M cars would join the BAR cars in CN service beginning in February 1966 one year later.

1190 GREEN GABLES originally BAR 80 NORTH TWIN LAKES

1191 GREENOCK originally BAR 81 SOUTH TWIN LAKES

1192 GREENDALE ex B&M 31 DARTMOUTH COLLEGE I originally B&M 31 HAMPTON BEACH

1193 GREEN HARBOUR ex B&M 32 DARTMOUTH COLLEGE II originally B&M 32 OLD ORCHARD BEACH

1194 GREENHURST originally B&M 33 RYE BEACH

1195 GREENWALD originally B&M 34 SALISBURY BEACH

The other used sleeping cars delivered to the CN in February 1965 came from the STL - SF and were 14 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom cars originally built for the FRISCO-KATY TEXAS SPECIAL and STL-SF METEOR trains. Those former Frisco cars with RIVER names were former METEOR cars and the other three had originally been built for the postwar TEXAS SPECIAL. These cars were all built between February and June 1948 by Pullman Standard to Plan: 4153 Lot: 6769. The CN assigned FALLS series names to these cars and assigned them to general service after painting lettering for the CN. All twelve would pass to VIA Rail Canada in March 1978.

2095 CHURCHILL FALLS originally STLSF 1450 PIERRE LACLEDE

2096 TOPSAIL FALLS originally STLSF 1451 THOMAS HART BENTON

2097 SISIBOO FALLS originally STLSF 1454 AUGUSTE CHOUTEAU

2098 REVERSING FALLS originally STLSF 1457 MERAMAC RIVER

2099 PINE FALLS originally STLSF 1458 OSAGE RIVER

2100 HORSESHOE FALLS originally STLSF 1459 GASCONADE RIVER

2101 KAKABEKA FALLS originally STLSF 1460 NIANGUA RIVER

2102 PYRAMID FALLS originally STLSF 1461 JAMES RIVER

2103 TECKAWA FALLS originally STLSF 1462 GRAND RIVER

2104 OCEAN FALLS originally STLSF 1465 SPRING RIVER

2105 RAINBOW FALLS originally STLSF 1466 CIMARRON RIVER

2106 ALEXANDRA FALLS originally STLSF 1464 NEOSHO RIVER

In April 1965 the CNR received twenty 10-Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars used from the NYC. These RIVER suffix cars on the NYC were renamed with RIVER suffix names on the CN and after repainting and lettering the cars were assigned to general service. These were the first 10 roomette 6 double Bedroom cars owned by the CN but they certainly wouldn't be the last. The CN would eventually own a total of 47 of these 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars all purchased used from U.S. roads. All but seven of these would be transferred to VIA Rail Canada.

2075 EXPLOITS RIVER originally NYC 10141 POWDER RIVER

2076 MARGAREE RIVER originally NYC 10144 PENOBSCOT RIVER

2077 MABOU RIVER originally NYC 10152 MIAMI RIVER

2078 SABLE RIVER originally NYC 10157 WINDING RIVER

2079 RESTIGOUCHE RIVER originally NYC 10161 AGAWAM RIVER

2080 PETITCODIAC RIVER originally NYC 10162 DEER RIVER

2081 RIVIERE DU LOUP originally NYC 10165 EAST RIVER

2082 RIVIERE AU RENARD originally NYC 10167 MANISTEE RIVER

2083 RIVIERE ROUGE originally NYC 10174 ST REGIS RIVER

2084 RIVIERE RAQUETTE originally NYC 10188 ST. FRANCIS RIVER

2085 NIPIGON RIVER originally NYC 10197 LICKING RIVER

2086 PEMBINA RIVER originally NYC 10199 CHICOPEE RIVER

2087 SASKATCHEWAN RIVER originally NYC 10213 HOCKING RIVER

2088 PRAIRIE RIVER originally NYC 10215 HURON RIVER

2089 PEACE RIVER originally NYC 10216 HOUSATONIC RIVER

2090 SMOKY RIVER originally NYC 10218 NIAGARA RIVER

2091 SKEENA RIVER originally NYC 10222 SAUGUS RIVER

2092 HAY RIVER originally NYC 10223 SCIOTO RIVER

2093 YUKON RIVER originally NYC 10230 OSWEGATCHIE RIVER

2094 RIDEAU RIVER originally NYC 10233 KANKAKEE RIVER

In December 1966 the Canadian National received twenty-nine used sleeping cars from five U. S. railroads, these would be the last used sleeping cars purchased by the Canadian National.
Two of the new cars were from the FEC and were American Car & Foundry built cars with 6 Double Bedrooms Buffet 20 seat Lounges built in November - December 1949 Plan: 9002 in Lot: 3095. Originally built for the CHAMPIONS and FLORIDA SPECIAL the OLEANDER and MAGNOLIA had been idled by a strike for some time before purchase by the CN. The two cars were extensively refurbished and updated before entering general service for the CN.

1095 NORTH STAR originally FEC MAGNOLIA

1096 NORTH WIND originally FEC OLEANDER

In addition to the two 6 Double Bedroom Buffet Lounge cars the FEC sold twelve 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars to the CN. These were the only 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars owned by the FEC. Five of these cars FEC ARGENTINA, BRAZIL, CHILE, GUATEMALA and VENEZUELA were built by Pullman Standard in September - October 1949 to Plan: 4140 in Lot: 6814 for assignment to the Southern Railway streamlined ROYAL PALM. The other seven cars BAHAMIAN, CAPARRA, COLUMBIA, CUBA, HAVANA, HONDURAS, and ORIENTE were built by Pullman Standard in September - October 1949 to Plan: 4140B in Lot: 6809 for assignment to the ACL CHAMPIONS and FLORIDA SPECIAL. As with all FEC cars they had been stored for some time due to a strike. The CN refurbished the cars and assigned RIVER series names to the cars they were then assigned to General Service.

2130 TERRA NOVA RIVER originally FEC GUATEMALA

2131 GRAND CODROY RIVER originally FEC ARGENTINA

2132 MOOSE RIVER originally FEC VENEZUELA

2133 ECUM SECUM RIVER originally FEC BRAZIL

2134 NASHWAAK RIVER originally FEC CHILE

2135 GRAND RIVIERE originally FEC ORIENTE

2136 RIVIERE CLOCHE originally FEC CAPARRA

2137 RIVIERE ST. FRANCOIS originally FEC CUBA

2138 BELLE RIVER originally FEC COLUMBIA

2139 DEEP RIVER originally FEC BAHAMIAN

2140 PETAWAWA RIVER originally FEC HAVANA

2141 NAISCOOT RIVER originally FEC HONDURAS

Five 10 Roomette Sleeping cars were former NKP cars purchased from new owner N&W who had recently merged the former NKP. These five cars were never renamed or renumbered for the N&W but instead carried the same numbers and names as they had in NKP service. The N&W had operated these cars between Chicago and New York with the DL&W east of Buffalo. The cars also operated in the overnight CITY OF CLEVELAND and CITY OF CHICAGO between their namesake cities. These cars Bedrooms were located in the center of the cars away from the trucks with five roomettes at each car end located over each truck. After refurbishing the cars the CN assigned the cars to General Service.

2125 RIVERDALE ex N&W 204 CITY OF PAINESVILLE originally NKP 204 CITY OF PAINESVILLE

2126 RIVERLEA ex N&W 205 CITY OF ERIE originally NKP 205 CITY OF ERIE

2127 RIVERSIDE ex N&W 208 CITY OF KOKOMO originally NKP 208 CITY OF KOKOMO

2128 RIVERFIELD ex N&W 209 CITY OF MUNCIE originally N&W 209 CITY OF MUNCIE

2129 RIVERVIEW ex N&W 212 CITY OF FORT WAYNE originally NKP 212 CITY OF FORT WAYNE

The CN purchased five 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars from the CMSTP&P that had spent recent years operating very little since the OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA had been discontinued in 1961. The cars were repainted in UP streamliner colors and had seen service in several of the CITY streamliners during peak travel times. The CN after repainting and refurbishing the cars assigned RIVER series names to these Pullman Standard built cars from October - November 1948. The cars were built to original Pullman plans: 4137 in Lot: 6775 for the Milwaukee Road.

2142 WANAPITEI RIVER originally CMSTP&P 2 LAKE COEUR D'ALENE

2143 WARPATH RIVER originally CMSTP&P 3 LAKE KEECHELUS

2144 VERMILLION RIVER originally CMSTP&P 4 LAKE PEPIN

2145 DAUPHIN RIVER originally CMSTP&P 6 LAKE PEND OREILLE

2146 TORCH RIVER originally CMSTP&P 8 LAKE PEWAUKEE

The last five 10 Roomette 6 double Bedroom Sleeping cars delivered to the CN in December 1966 from the E-L originally built for the Erie. These cars delivered by Pullman Standard in May - June 1949 to Plan: 4129A in Lot: 6797 were initially assigned to the Chicago - New York ERIE LIMITED. After the merger of the Delaware Lackawanna and Western with the ERIE the cars were assigned to the PHOEBE SNOW and that former New York - Buffalo train was extended to Chicago. CN after refurbishing and repainting assigned the cars to General Service.

2147 BATTLE RIVER ex E-L JAMES GORE KING originally Erie JAMES GORE KING

2148 ELBOW RIVER ex E-L MARVIN KENT originally Erie MARVIN KENT

2149 CLEARWATER RIVER ex E-L BENJAMIN LODER originally Erie BENJAMIN LODER

2150 CHILCOTIN RIVER ex E-L DANIEL CRAIG McCALLUM originally Erie DANIEL CRAIG McCALLUM

2151 NECHAKO RIVER ex E-L CHARLES MINOT originally Erie CHARLES MINOT

The city of Montreal was having a Worlds Fair in the summer of 1967 called EXPO 67. In anticipation of increased rail travel during the summer the CN leased a number of sleeping cars for the EXPO 67 event.
All leased cars were assigned 600 series numbers while operating on the CN. From the N&W came two 5 Double Bedroom Buffet 16 seat Lounge cars that were originally Pullman Standard built cars for the NKP and operated in the CITY OF CLEVELAND and CITY OF CHICAGO the cars actual names. All leased cars operated with their original U. S. name and a 600 series number assigned by the CN. These particular cars were returned to the N&W in November 1967.

619 CITY OF CLEVELAND ex N&W 150 CITY OF CLEVELAND originally NKP 150 CITY OF CLEVELAND

620 CITY OF CHICAGO ex N&W 151 CITY OF CHICAGO originally NKP 151 CITY OF CHICAGO

From the Great Northern came MANITOBA CLUB and WINNIPEG CLUB a pair of 8 Duplex Roomette 2 Double Bedroom Buffet 24 seat Dinette Lounge Cars rebuilt for the St. Paul - Winnipeg WINNIPEG LIMITED. These two cars were rebuilt from GLACIER series Sleeping cars in 1956 by Pullman containing 16 Duplex Roomettes and 4 Double Bedrooms. The cars were the only leased cars that were already equipped with dual language signs (French & English). Both were returned to the GN in November 1967.

621 MANITOBA CLUB ex GN 1198 MANITOBA CLUB originally GN 1175 OBERLIN GLACIER

622 WINNIPEG CLUB ex GN 1199 WINNIPEG CLUB originally GN 1177 HARRISON GLACIER

From the B&O came three 14 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars that received CN lease numbers 623 - 625. These cars were some of the first postwar streamlined sleeping cars delivered to the B&O and operated in trains system wide. These cars were returned to the B&O in November 1967.

623 MAHONING originally B&O 7011 MAHONING

624 MONOCACY originally B&O 7012 MONACACY

625 CACAPON originally B&O 7015 CACAPON

From the CRI&P came nine 8 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars that were leased from May 1966 to April 1968 before being returned. The CN assigned these cars to the CAVALIER and Maritime trains during EXPO 67. These were some of the roomiest Roomette - Bedroom cars ever constructed. The Rock Island assigned them to the TWIN STAR ROCKET between Minneapolis and Houston. The ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROCKET between Chicago and Denver-Colorado Springs and to the GOLDEN STATE between Chicago and Los Angeles.

630 AIR FORCE ACADEMY originally CRI&P 630 AIR FORCE ACADEMY

631 THE BROADMOOR originally CRI&P 631 THE BROADMOOR

632 RAMPART RANGE originally CRI&P 632 RAMPART RANGE

633 TURQUOISE SKY originally CRI&P 633 TURQUOISE SKY

634 LAKE NOKOMIS originally CRI&P 634 LAKE NOKOMIS

635 BUFFALO BAYOU originally CRI&P 635 BUFFALO BAYOU

636 SAN JACINTO originally CRI&P 636 SAN JACINTO

637 GOLDEN SPIRE originally CRI&P GOLDEN SPIRE

638 GOLDEN TOWER originally CRI&P GOLDEN TOWER

Other long term lease sleeping cars were the six BLUE series cars with 12 Roomettes and 4 Double Bedrooms from the N&W that were originally Wabash cars assigned to Detroit - St. Louis overnight trains and overnight Waba***rains between St. Louis and Chicago. These cars like the Rock Island cars were leased between May 1966 and April 1968. CN assigned these cars to General Service while on the CN.

639 BLUE GAZELLE ex N&W BLUE GAZELLE originally Wabash BLUE GAZELLE

640 BLUE SKIES ex N&W BLUE SKIES originally Wabash BLUE SKIES

641 BLUE KNIGHT ex N&W BLUE KNIGHT originally Wabash BLUE KNIGHT

642 BLUE HORIZON ex N&W BLUE HORIZON originally NKP BLUE HORIZON

643 BLUE CLOUD ex N&W BLUE CLOUD originally NKP BLUE CLOUD

644 BLUE BOY ex N&W BLUE BOY originally NKP BLUE BOY

Two 10 Roomette 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars identical to those owned by the CN were leased from the E - L between May 1966 and April 1968. The ERIE had originally assigned these cars to overnight service between Chicago and Youngstown in the ERIE LIMITED.

645 SPIRIT OF YOUNGSTOWN
ex E - L SPIRIT OF YOUNGSTOWN originally Erie SPIRIT OF YOUNGSTOWN

646 PRIDE OF YOUNGSTOWN
ex E - L PRIDE OF YOUNGSTOWN originally Erie PRIDE OF YOUNGSTOWN

The three most interesting of the leased sleeping cars were the three B&O Dome 5 Roomette 1 Double Bedroom 3 Drawing Room cars leased between May 1966 and April 1968. The CN sold the Drawing Rooms as Compartments and assigned the cars to the SUPER CONTINENTAL between Edmonton and Vancouver.

647 MOONLIGHT DOME ex B&O 7600 MOONLIGHT DOME originally C&O 1850 (BELLE ISLE DOME)

648 STARLIGHT DOME ex B&O 7601 STARLIGHT DOME originally C&O 1851 (CHAMBERLIN DOME)

649 SUNLIGHT DOME ex B&O 7602 SUNLIGHT DOME originally C&O 1852 HAMPTON ROADS DOME

The CN was one of the few railroads in North America to make an all out attempt at attracting passengers back to the trains. Not just Coach passengers but Sleeping car passengers as well.
They first tried their innovative Red, White & Blue fares on all trains between Montreal and the Maritimes beginning April 23, 1962. So successful was this test market that CN expanded the Red, White, & Blue fares system wide beginning October 27, 1963. This led to the purchase of large numbers of sleeping cars used from U. S. Roads beginning in 1964.
The CN introduced a new transcontinental train the PANORAMA between Montreal - Toronto and Vancouver May 24, 1964. The SUPER CONTINENTAL was still the flag carrier for the CN in transcontinental service operating on a four day - three night schedule. The new PANORAMA operated on a four night - three day schedule between the same cities. The equipment for both trains was identical with the former Milwaukee Road SUPER DOMES now named SCENERAMIC DOMES by CN operating in both trains west of Edmonton.
In 1965 the joint service agreement between CN and CP ended in the Montreal - Toronto and Montreal - Quebec City corridors after being in operation since 1933.
CN immediately went after both routes with new and faster trains while CP put forth a half hearted effort in competition that would eventually see them withdraw from Montreal - Toronto entirely. The CN would use trackage rights over the CP between Ottawa and Smiths Falls to bring faster rail service to Toronto - Ottawa.
The CN introduced their own overnight train between Montreal and Toronto the CAVALIER a superb train that stretched to twenty cars on many nights.
Not all was rosy for the PANORAMA it began taking it on the chin in 1967 when CN made it two trains instead of one. One train operated between Montreal - Toronto and Winnipeg and the other began operating between Winnipeg and Vancouver. The layover in Winnipeg between trains was something like nine hours. Finally the PANORAMA was discontinued January 7, 1970.
The Canadian National operated trains in Newfoundland that were Narrow - Gauge and they owned a number of sleeping cars for this service. When operated as the Newfoundland Railway they purchased five semi-streamlined Sleeping cars with 8 Sections 1 Compartment and a smoker from Canadian Car & Foundry during WW II to handle the increase in wartime traffic. Four of these five cars were straight sleeping cars and one was a Sleeper Observation with Open Platform at one end and identical interior to the other sleeping cars. This car was named FOGO. After the Canadian National takeover the cars received numbered in the 300 series.

NARROW GAUGE 8 SECTION 1 COMPARTMENT SMOKER SLEEPING CARS Canadian Car & Foundry December 1943 Lot 1533 (Built for and assigned to Newfoundland Narrow Gauge Numbers assigned to cars by Canadian National)

301 BOTSWOOD

302 BUCHANS

304 GANDER

310 PLACENTIA

NARROW GAUGE 8 SECTION 1 COMPARTMENT SMOKER SLEPPER OPEN PLATFORM OBSERVATION Canadian Car & Foundry December 1943 (Built for Newfoundland Narrow Gauge Number added when taken over by CNR)

303 FOGO

In 1952 the Canadian National purchased six streamlined sleeping cars for the railroads Newfoundland operations. The only named train on the island was the CARIBOU the name of the cross island train from Port-Aux-Basques to St. John's a 24 hour journey of just over 500 miles. The CARIBOU affectionately known as the NEWFIE BULLET by the locals who poked fun at the slow speed of the train.

8 SECTION 1 STATEROOM SMOKER SLEEPING CARS Canadian Car & Foundry March 1952 Lot: 1943 (Built for and assigned to CARIBOU)

311 CLARENVILLE

312 FLOWERS COVE

313 CORNER BROOK

314 PRINCETON

315 BISHOP'S FALLS

316 WHITBOURNE

In 1955 a single sleeping cars identical to the 1955 cars was added to the CN roster.

8 SECTION 1 STATEROOM SMOKER SLEEPING CAR Canadian Car & Foundry May 1955 Lot: 2101 (Built for and assigned to CARIBOU)

317 BONAVISTA

The BONAVISTA was renamed TERRA NOVA in November 1979. Today the Newfoundland Narrow Gauge has been shut down for many years and most of the track pulled up. But if one looks around when visiting Newfoundland there is much evidence of this most interesting railway still in existence.

TTFN Al
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 26, 2006 9:23 AM
G'day!

Something from the old days . . . .

CN Transcontinental (1963)
(credit: Canada Science & Technology Museum, Ottawa)



Later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by artpeterson on Monday, June 26, 2006 1:08 PM
Although not a part of Tom's earlier list, but at least moving in the right direction alphabetically, here's a D&H train led by RS2 4008, as photographed by Barney Stone. No date (in a 1949-1955 era Kodachrome mount) or location info, so if anyone has any thoughts, please let me know.

Enjoy!

Art


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Posted by BudKarr on Monday, June 26, 2006 1:26 PM
Good Afternoon Captain Tom

My compliments to you this fine day! My lady has found a couple of photos that my fit in with what you are featuring today . . . hopefully these are not copy protected, for my intent is hardly to steal . . . credit given where credit may be found!


CN Super Continental at Lake Louise - 1966
(from: trainweb.org - photo: Ron Goodenow)



CN Super Continental at Frazier River Canyon - 1966
(from: trainweb.org - photo: Ron Goodenow)




BK in beautiful Alberta, Canada's high mountain country!
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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, June 26, 2006 1:59 PM
Art Having looked at the picture of the D&H I would guess an early day Laurentian with the RS unit. Few D&H trains except those between Montreal and New York operated with a RPO. Cant imagine the location, but it appears to be doing some switching and the Laurentian of that period operated a dining car only part way so is it picking up a diner. I believe the Dining-Parlor car combinations only operated between Troy and Montreal. South of Albany the through cars were operated in an NYC train. This is only my guessing so don't hold me to it. The RS looked right at home leading that consist.

Enjoyed the Super Continental photos from BK and Tom. I personally always enjoyed the Super Continental it was a far friendlier train the rival CP Canadian and it always operated with longer consist then its CP rival.

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Posted by artpeterson on Monday, June 26, 2006 2:11 PM
Hi Al -

Thanks for the thoughts on the D&H shot! Also wanted to ask you about an ex-NYC car that the RI bought - specifically "Pacific Shore" (also carried RI number 481, if I remember correctly). I understand that it had been named "Atlantic Shore" while on the NYC. What's the interior configuration, build date and RI acquisition date for this car?

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 26, 2006 3:22 PM
G'day!

A bit of activity over here I see . . . nice Pix from Art 'n BK!!

Art - Just used that list for the day it was "up" - now we're movin' on. [swg] By the by - that Pix of yours just fills the screen . . . gotta be a better way, wouldn't ya think [?] Love the D&H and never get tired of the wonderful blue livery of the Alcos.


D&H ALCO PA1 #18 (copyright: Corel Corp.)


Later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, June 26, 2006 4:35 PM
Art,
The Twentieth Century Ltd. Mid Train Lounges 10572 ATLANTIC SHORE and 10573 - LAKE SHORE were delivered by Pullman Standard in August-September 1948. Each car as built beginning from the boarding vestibule end had a toilet on the right side of the car and a porters section on the left. next was a 30 seat lounge. The lounge was quite spacious with tables for four tables for two and single seats as well as sofas, next was a bar folloed by the secretaries room with an annnex for the telephone. and last was the barber shop with an annex for the shower.
The two cars received new NYC numbers 10703 and 10704 in August 1958.
In March 1959 both cars were sold to the Rock Island who immediatly renamed Atlantic Shore to Pacific Shore. Car numbers were 481 PACIFIC SHORE and 482 LAKE SHORE. Rock Island removed the Barber Chair and made a card room of the former Barber shop with table and seating for four although apparently seating was expandable to six. The Secretary Room was used as a open room with seating for two and the the Telephone annex and Shower annexs were kept locked and no longer used. The lounge seating was reduced to 24 and the cars were assigned to GOLDEN STATE consists. In 1961 the two cars lounges were redecorated and seating was increased to 28.
Pacific Shore went to the Western New York Historical Society in 1984 after a few years of private ownership. The LAKE SHORE was retired and scrapped in 1971.

Hope this helps.

TTFN Al

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