Page 85, Fall, 2020 issue, New Orleans photo

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, October 12, 2020 9:41 AM

The URL is not sharp enough to show long thin red stems, but they may be there.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, October 12, 2020 9:45 AM

But they do not show the variations.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, October 12, 2020 10:59 AM

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, October 12, 2020 11:02 AM

Hell, I have been sent the picture, and it seems pretty clear there what was going on at the time.  Caption says Canal at Galvez, October 1961.  It is credited as a T.H. Desnoyers picture from the Krambles-Peterson Archive.  I'd post it here but it was an e-mail attachment, not an URL, and I'm not going to Web-host an image that isn't mine.

Note there is the exact same kind of bush across the way, with its structure more visible.  Road on 'right' side is clearly visible (to me ... but I knew where to look) behind bush, and very obvious they are flower heads, on stems, just like across the way.

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Posted by York1 on Monday, October 12, 2020 11:18 AM

Again, I don't have access to the picture, so what I am saying is only guesswork.

Dave, the widening of Canal Street did take place, but I'm not sure when.  I only know of the time I worked on Canal Street, and lived a block off Canal Boulevard.  Canal St. today is three driving lanes and a parking lane on each side of the neutral ground.

You are correct about the Canal St - City Park Ave - Canal Blvd extension.  It was just completed last year.  Before, the streetcar lines ended at City Park Ave.  It was a mess at that intersection, with lots of car traffic headed towards the lake from downtown, the streetcar passengers crossing the street to transfer to the bus system, etc.

Since I no longer live there, I cannot relate any signs to any location.

Another possibility is that the streetcar barn is located on Willow St. off of Carrollton Ave.  The St. Charles line turns onto Carrollton and goes for quite a distance.  However, Carrollton and St. Charles both are quite a bit narrower than Canal St.  

I wish I could say more, but my memory is not helping.  While I lived and worked there, I wish I had taken more pictures of things like this, rather than just pictures of my kids growing up.

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Posted by York1 on Monday, October 12, 2020 11:27 AM

Well, since I posted a couple of minutes ago, I now see that Overmod has posted the exact location.

Sorry for the long post that no longer matters.

"Nevermind."

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:14 AM

Thanks to both of you.  York1, your post is valuable in establishing that the traffic lanes of Canal in the area of Galvez were widened at the expense of the neutral ground and with the removal of the bushes.  So I was just plain wrong because of impaired eyesght and lack of knowledge of Canal Street's alteration.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 5:56 AM

York1
Sorry for the long post that no longer matters.

It most certainly DOES matter.  Among other things it probably clears up why the scene is different today than in 1961, which was an unmentioned issue that only becomes plain with your post.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 7:50 AM

Again, I apologize for the mistake.  It did provide an opportinity to post some worthwhile pictures, though..

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 10:44 AM

Thanks, Dave and Overmod.

This topic has been fun for me.  I loved the New Orleans streetcars.  I even attended several private parties when the streetcars could be "rented" for private use.

At one time, they were used mainly for commuting.  Today, I believe the major use is tourism, although I know some use the Canal cars for getting to work.

The principal of the school where I taught hit a Canal streetcar with his car right in front of the school as he crossed the neutral ground.

I've been looking for some pictures of the old Canal cars traveling through the rare snow.  I'm not sure where anything is anymore.

Unfortunately, by the time I came along, the old Desire streetcar line had been removed.  Bourbon Street and Royal Street were a little too narrow for streetcars, buses, and cars at the same time.  I think the city's tourism directors would love to have the Desire line back.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:35 AM

Overmod, what exactly is the name of the fowers or buds?   Do tyou know?

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:30 AM

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Overmod, what exactly is the name of the flowers or buds?   Do you know?

I do not.  From what I know, I suspect either Cassia alata (the 'candelabra plant') or Cassia corymbosa -- both of these start sending up flower heads about September.

I don't think it would be very hard for a good deep-Southern nurseryman to identify the plant from the original picture from the 'Urbs in horto' pages.

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