Identification of two British-constructed locomotives requested

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Identification of two British-constructed locomotives requested
Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, April 2, 2020 2:42 PM

dear all ,

   I got these two stamps from my supplier in HK - a few days ago.
They will go into my TRAIN collection.
but, I need to definitely identify the 2 trains -first .
Who can help me identify the two trains.
On apparently ran in England, and one in Japan.
bivracha
Steve
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Posted by M636C on Saturday, April 4, 2020 3:17 AM

daveklepper

dear all ,

   I got these two stamps from my supplier in HK - a few days ago.
They will go into my TRAIN collection.
but, I need to definitely identify the 2 trains -first .
Who can help me identify the two trains.
On apparently ran in England, and one in Japan.
bivracha
Steve
Stamps#trains 2#what#.jpg
 
 

The first stamp shows the first locomotive on a Japanese railway, No. 1, built in England in 1871 (I think by Robert Stephenson & Company), a 2-4-0, later JNR type 150.

The second stamp shows H.A. Ivatt's Atlantic type No 251, the first with a wide firebox, built at Doncaster Works of the Great Northern Railway in December 1902.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Saturday, April 4, 2020 6:25 AM

I have the same set of stamps in my collection. IIRC there are four stamps in this set, besides these two, one of them is a "PLM C220", another one is a German steam locomotive. 

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, April 4, 2020 8:05 AM

The PLM engine is a 'coupe-vent', or 'locomotive a bec', an early attempt at streamlining -- it was said to have been an attempt to address chronic resistance from winds at certain times.

The fourth locomotive is a 4-4-0 from "Holland".  I believe this is the Sharp, Stewart (British-built) 350  class, not one of the later ones, but I am far from an expert on Dutch steam power.  The very last Dutch 4-4-0s were German, but they were roughly contemporaneous with PRR E6s and K4s, much more modern.

 

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Posted by wjstix on Sunday, April 5, 2020 1:19 AM

The British 4-4-2 appears to be wearing the post-grouping (1923-47) paint scheme of the London & North Eastern Ry. (LNER)

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Posted by M636C on Sunday, April 5, 2020 7:04 AM

wjstix

The British 4-4-2 appears to be wearing the post-grouping (1923-47) paint scheme of the London & North Eastern Ry. (LNER)

 
The colours are definitely those of the GNR.
The dark green panel edging on the tender was only on GNR locomotives.
When enlarged, the letters GNR appear on the tender.
The leading number "2" is visible on the buffer beam.
This locomotive was renumbered 3251 by the LNER.
 
Peter

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