Train Show Cancelled

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Train Show Cancelled
Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, March 7, 2020 10:55 AM

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:02 AM

Is it still on, or has the Coronavirus cancelled it?

I would go, but for the 4,000 km that separate us.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:37 AM

It's still on 'Dude, I've gotten no cancellation notices from the club.  If it IS cancelled I'm going to be a little PO'd about it, I just built the club a new O and S gauge test track unit and want to show it off and hear the "OOOOH's and AHHHH's!"   They lost the old one, no-one knows where it is!  

"Don't worry, I'll build you a new one!" says I, while I'm chuckling under my breath!

"Thanks Wayne," they said, "Besides, the old one never worked right anyway!"

THIS one works!

Yeah, 4,000 "clicks" could be an issue.  I understand.  Wink

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:28 PM

Show's been canceled due to coronavirus panic.  My sincere apologies to those who were planning on attending.  

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:43 PM

I would say I'm psychic, but the NBA suspended their season yesterday.  The NHL did the same today, after playing some games in empty arenas due to local bans on large gatherings. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:56 PM

There wouldn't be much excitement in a game played in an empty arena anyway.  If they were televised you might as well watch 'em with the sound turned off.

I wonder how many are going to pack a cooler, walk to the nearest schoolyard, and watch the kids playing a "pick-up" game of B-Ball?   

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:58 PM

It's going to be -20 C tonight in my area, but the outdoor rinks will probably still be busy.  Not much outdoor basketball this time of year out here!

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Posted by MidlandMike on Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:24 PM

What train show was cancelled?  I'm guessing that info was in your first post, that was deleted.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:08 PM

MidlandMike

What train show was cancelled?  I'm guessing that info was in your first post, that was deleted.

 

Thanks for your interest Mike.  The show was the Virginia Train Collectors Spring show in Chesterfield VA.  I thought it best to delete the whole thing rather than cause confusion and disappointment for any who might have been interested.

There will  be another VTC show on July 18th in Charlottesville VA, assuming the coronavirus panic is over by then.  I don't think I'm assuming too much.

I'll certainly let everyone know about the show again when the time comes.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, March 13, 2020 7:35 AM

As of this morning, March 13th, Kalmbach/doubleclick still has the advertising for the Atlanta show (during the Ides of March) in heavy rotation, here and on the Trains Magazine forum.

As I 'don't do doubleclick', I have not clicked through to see if the show has been formally cancelled (and thereby flag all sorts of crapware marketing that I am interested in train shows and related products).  For all I know, the show's been cancelled.  Isn't it sad that a moderation staff that was concerned over someone asking for shipping on a set of back issues can't be bothered to amend its own self-serving business practice?

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, March 13, 2020 9:30 AM

The Mod-man, myself, and others have discussed this on the "Trains" Forum so there's not much point in going into details here.

Suffice to say in my humble opinion when this is all over, and it will be over sooner or later, there will be some who'll pat themselves on the back for taking such bold decisive action. Uh-huh. I think a lot more are going to feel like damn fools for buying into all the panic and over-reaction.  Bang Head

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Posted by Juniata Man on Friday, March 13, 2020 10:14 AM

The Atlanta Model Train show has officially been cancelled.  Piedmont NMRA has the notice on their website this morning.

Frankly; I don't see where they had much choice. While some die hards would have attended regardless; I can't imagine parents taking their children to a train show in the current atmosphere.

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, March 13, 2020 10:49 AM

Wayne-- Not convinced its an over-reaction. The chain has to be broken. Projection shows 92,000,000 infected in the US with 480,000 deaths. Stop the public gatherings and break the transmission until the critical time has past.

Kids are calling this this 'Boomer Remover'

Yikes

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, March 13, 2020 11:03 AM

The "Boomer Remover!"  That's hysterical!  Don't worry, we ain't goin' nowhere yet!

And Vince, I do have to respectfully disagree.  Coronavirus is a flu.  It can be treated as a flu, i.e. relieve the symptoms and let the disease run it's course.  Certainly those who my late mother-in-law used to call "the frail elderly" are at risk, and so are those with other serious health issues to begin with, but this isn't "The Black Death," no-one's tripping over bodies in the streets and there aren't carts going around with the cry "Bring out your dead!" nor are there likely to be.  

There have been flu scares in the past, but I there's never been a reaction like this, probably due the 24-hour news cycle on so many news networks that HAS to be filled by SOMETHING, and by various opportunists who have their own reasons.

I got a report from a friend in New Jersey that the state government induced panic buying of groceries and home supplies is having a worse effect than the flu itself!

At least it hasn't gotten to his point yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rR-OsTNCg  

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Posted by cx500 on Friday, March 13, 2020 3:31 PM

In today's lawsuit-happy environment, liability is a big concern.  If the show goes on, it becomes inevitable that somebody who catches the virus (even possibly from another source or personal carelessness) will decide to blame the show and hire a lawyer.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, March 13, 2020 4:33 PM

cx500, that's a good point.  People get sick all the time but that wouldn't matter if they picked up something at the show, they'll blame the show venue.

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Posted by cx500 on Friday, March 13, 2020 6:31 PM

Add another cancellation to the list.  Supertrain in Calgary (mid April) has just been annulled.

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, March 13, 2020 6:58 PM

I haven't heard of any Casinos shut down!! Perhaps I'm wrong .. anyone know? 

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, March 13, 2020 7:50 PM

Flintlock76
Coronavirus is a flu.

IT"S NOT A FLU.  If you have to make a disease analogy, it's like a bad cold. 

Both the 1918 flu and SARS/MERS were significant for having a different mechanism of action than just 'typical symptoms' or secondary considerations.  This was induction of autoimmune problems, not susceptibility to 'bacterial coinfections' or whatever.  (As of March ninth the official CDC statistics put the cumulative reported death toll from bacterial coinfections at four.)

It can be treated as a flu, i.e. relieve the symptoms and let the disease run its course.

As for any other disease for which there is no prompt, or costeffective, treatment ... like a common cold.  Or Ebola.  

The initial problem with this 'common-sense' interpretation is the 'running its course' isn't disease-related; it's immune-system-response related.  History is full of examples of what happens when certain kinds of novel 'disease-causing' organisms are introduced to populations without 'adequate' immune competency to stop replication in a reasonable time or to a sufficient extent.  There are very likely others that are not recorded because their 'course' was so uniformly or completely lethal that no surviving record exists.  I happen to think the 'bison population explosion' might have been related to one of these.

And while something we have observed in the 'outbreaks' of COVID-19 we have seen so far -- that the initial lethality rate drops fairly quickly even as the transmission and successful induction goes up by multiple orders of magnitude -- may indicate much more self-limiting of much of the 'lethal pandemic' potential, there is as yet not enough knowledge 'why' to convince me the next outbreak's consequences will continue to conform.  That reason alone is sufficient (in my opinion) to justify many of the 'safe course' precautions being taken to slow both the spread of exposure and the rate of induction in as many segments of pur population as possible.  Reducing the problems in stressing the older or otherwise-immunocompromised population is a secondary benefit by comparison.  

Whether we see more drastic quarantine restrictions, including perhaps on otherwise-'target-of-opportunity' socioeconomic groups like illegal Hispanics or poverty-stricken African-Americans, remains to be seen -- there's far more along the lines of WW1 anti-German propaganda still to be fired up and made more applicable to all those I-don't-want-to-sicken-and-die normal people out there.

Who is taking up the fair and balanced public accounting of incidence statistics now that the CDC itself has quit?

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, March 13, 2020 8:39 PM

"More like a common cold."  OK, so that makes the panic even more incomprehensible.  Well, what can you do?  We're on a roller-coaster ride whether we want one or not.  The problem is, I HATE roller coasters!

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Posted by MidlandMike on Friday, March 13, 2020 9:12 PM

In Italy, if the coronavirys infection rate continues to increase at the present growth, in one week they will run out of ICU beds for those that need such intervention.  

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30627-9/fulltext

As was pointed out in today's reporting after president Trump.s news conference, the US has fewer ICU beds per capita than Italy.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, March 13, 2020 11:14 PM

It appears that 2020 is being cancelled - is it 2021 yet?

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, March 13, 2020 11:44 PM

2020 has been horrid and it's only March... I wish it was 2021.  Cancel this 2020 asap.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, March 14, 2020 10:10 AM

Miningman

I haven't heard of any Casinos shut down!! Perhaps I'm wrong .. anyone know? 

 
There are several in the Chicago area that are shutting down for the time being.
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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, March 14, 2020 3:51 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH-- Good good thanks for that. I just saw the Governor of Ohio shut down Ohio casinos.

Quite the thing when cultural identities are stopped... Friday prayers in Iran, cafes and restaurants in France, soccer in Spain, kissing in Italy, March Madness and Baseball in the USA and by far the biggest of them all : Tim Hortons cancelling their 'roll up the rim' in Canada, in mid contest yet!  That is beyond the beyond. Of course NDG not affected as he is dedicated to Starbucks, and it's 300 miles to a Timmies from where I live, probably the only patch of territory without one!  No McDonalds either but we have a Dairy Queen, which we need like a hole in the head, it was -32 here last night. 

 

The future: March 2021... one year later

Corona Patrol

 

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, March 14, 2020 4:29 PM

Miningman

CSSHEGEWISCH-- Good good thanks for that. I just saw the Governor of Ohio shut down Ohio casinos.

Quite the thing when cultural identities are stopped... Friday prayers in Iran, cafes and restaurants in France, soccer in Spain, kissing in Italy, March Madness and Baseball in the USA and by far the biggest of them all : Tim Hortons cancelling their 'roll up the rim' in Canada, in mid contest yet!  That is beyond the beyond. Of course NDG not affected as he is dedicated to Starbucks, and it's 300 miles to a Timmies from where I live, probably the only patch of territory without one!  No McDonalds either but we have a Dairy Queen, which we need like a hole in the head, it was -32 here last night. 

 

The future: March 2021... one year later

Corona Patrol

 

 

 

Interesting taste in weapons those folks have!  The girl in the road looks like she's got an old Canadian Ross "Straight-Pull" rifle (hope she's assembled the bolt correctly!), the guy on the ridge of the road looks like he's totin' a Boys .55 caliber anti-tank rifle, "Mr. Roboto" seems to have a bazooka from hell!

The other's I'm not sure of, picture's not big enough.

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, March 14, 2020 8:14 PM

Could be Mr. Roboto is steam powered! Stack and safety valve plume. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, March 14, 2020 9:19 PM

Oh, I'm sure  Mr. Roboto's got a steam engine under his skin somewhere, he's too cool to be diesel powered.

Besides, in a post-apocalyptic world like that appears to be steam makes more sense anyway.  As long as you've got something burnable to put in the firebox you've got power!  Petroleum products may be hard to find!

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, March 15, 2020 6:50 PM

How about a biological approach?

Maybe THIS is what carona is leading to.  Whistling

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:40 PM

Yikes!  If I saw something like that stalking through the neighborhood I'd make a TP run to the supermarket myself!  I won't say why...

Jeez, how do you stop that thing?  It's too big to shoot and too skinny to bayonet!  I know!  I'd run a cable across the street and trip it!

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