Vinnys Space Time Machine Voyage Itinerary

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Vinnys Space Time Machine Voyage Itinerary
Posted by Miningman on Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:40 PM

First Stop:  A mystery, I never heard of this train.

 

2nd Stop:  The S1 of course.

 

3rd Stop:  Viewing New Haven DL109's in action.

 

4th Stop:  Spending time with Huletts along the shores of Lake Erie

Stop # 5  A trip to Alco to see the construction of PA's

 

Stop #6  Admiring track gangs hard at work.

 

Stop #7  Cab Ride! ... and a turn at being the Fireman.

 

Stop #8  Canadian Pacifics 4-8-4 #3101 in Blue! Did it really have Blue drivers?  Find out.

 

Break For lunch.  Vinny hopes you are enjoying your Space Time trip.

 

Stop #9  A round table discussion about this very Avart-garde Southern  poster ad.

 

Stop #10  A second look at the S1 because it's the S1.

 

Stop 11:   Verifying Great Northern's 5 track mainline and if the Goat holds the reins .

 

Stop 12:  A nice few hours with the Lehigh Valley in Hazleton.

 

 

Lucky Stop 13:  Viewing the Kansas City Southern ' Southern Belle' in all its glory.

 

Our Last Stop on this trip:  You will receive a souvenir Daylight luggage tag as we watch in awe and the return home safely to our own places in SpaceTime. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:49 PM

Aren't those old covers and ads wonderful?  No wonder so many young men were inspired to "Go railroadin'!"

Probably quite a few young women were inspired as well, but of course the opportunities weren't there for them back in those days. 

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:40 AM

I'm open to further voyages in the future if anyone has any suggestions.  The Titanic is out of bounds, sorry, no tragedy stuff. 

Enjoy the SuperBowl .. don't worry about winter fat, it's normal. Drive carefully.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, February 2, 2020 6:35 PM

Well, how about focusing on a single train's advertising showing evolution of ad styles?  Hard, but fun.  My 2 Cents

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Posted by Jones1945 on Monday, February 3, 2020 12:17 AM

Take me back to Jan 1939 and let me stay until Dec 1941, so that I could

  1. Take the SS Normandie (to New York)
  2. Go to the 1939 New York World Fair
  3. Take a train hauling by the S1 from NY to Chi-town
  4. Stay in Chicago to see different streamliner of different RRs 
  5. Travel to the west coast (LA) on Santa Fe's streamliners
  6. Take the SP Coast Daylight from LA to SF
  7. Travel back to Denver by UP's streamliners
  8. Stay in Denver to visit Elise McKenna
  9. Go back to Chicago for more streamliner hunting
  10. Take the 20th Century Limited of NYCRR to New York
  11. Live in NY for a while then Travel back to Europe by SS Normandie
  12. Home
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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, February 3, 2020 12:46 AM

I'd like to be taken back to say 1933 to ride what was left of the Ohio-Indiana interurban system, ride the EBT, the Colorado narrow gauge cricle, the former Carson and Colorado line over Montgomery pass (did drive on portions of the line in 1992), take the V&T from Reno to Virginia City, ride the S.N., ride all over the P.E. and especially the Mt Lowe line and head down to San Diego and take a ride on the La Jolla line. In mid to late 1934, it would be fun sampling the early Streamliners.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, February 3, 2020 9:37 AM

Jones1945

Take me back to Jan 1939 and let me stay until Dec 1941, so that I could

  1. Take the SS Normandie (to New York)
  2. Go to the 1939 New York World Fair
  3. Take a train hauling by the S1 from NY to Chi-town
  4. Stay in Chicago to see different streamliner of different RRs 
  5. Travel to the west coast (LA) on Santa Fe's streamliners
  6. Take the SP Coast Daylight from LA to SF
  7. Travel back to Denver by UP's streamliners
  8. Stay in Denver to visit Elise McKenna
  9. Go back to Chicago for more streamliner hunting
  10. Take the 20th Century Limited of NYCRR to New York
  11. Live in NY for a while then Travel back to Europe by SS Normandie
  12. Home
 

And don't forget all the great movies that came out in 1939 like "Gone With The Wind," "The Wizard Of Oz," "Dodge City,"  "Stagecoach," "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington," and dozens of other classics.

1939's been called the "Watershed Year Of American Film," no other year has ever come close to the amount of classic movies released in 1939.  It's been said a film historian could spend an entire career studying 1939 and never run out of material.

 

I have to wonder how anyone around at the time could possibly see them all.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, February 3, 2020 7:10 PM

OK.  Seeing as how you've opened THAT door.....

Greatest non-documentary film about railroading, or that takes place on, or is about a train ever?

And go!  Big Smile

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, February 3, 2020 7:35 PM

3 way tie for first:

The Train

Danger Lights

Polar Express 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Monday, February 3, 2020 7:52 PM

You mean you're not going with Under Siege 2 or Unstoppable?

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, February 3, 2020 8:05 PM

Tied for second!

Also a note to Eric_Mag : Now that is a beautiful well thought out journey. Can't wait to ride the Pacific Electric, or just watch it in action on a beautiful Southern California sunshiny day. 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Monday, February 3, 2020 8:29 PM

Speaking seriously, this should be tied for #1 as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHlBMKtgPOA

When filmed, the shot after 1:08:00 was the most expensive stunt in movie history.

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, February 3, 2020 8:48 PM

Agreed. Make it so .

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, February 3, 2020 9:17 PM

I'd place Buster's "The General" in the three-way tie for the best.  I'd leave out "Polar Express," I don't care for that one, I thought the computer animation was poorly done and downright creepy.  Maybe if they'd done it live-action with Pere Marquette 1225 I might have liked it a lot better.  But it's a super-popular film, so what do I know?

A thought struck me watching a bit of "The General."  Filmed in 1927, that's 62 years after the end of the Civil War.  That's less time than the end of World War Two and 2020!  

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Posted by Jones1945 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 5:36 AM

Flintlock76

 And don't forget all the great movies that came out in 1939 like "Gone With The Wind," "The Wizard Of Oz," "Dodge City,"  "Stagecoach," "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington," and dozens of other classics.

1939's been called the "Watershed Year Of American Film," no other year has ever come close to the amount of classic movies released in 1939.  It's been said a film historian could spend an entire career studying 1939 and never run out of material.

 I have to wonder how anyone around at the time could possibly see them all.

Sure thing! I will put your movie recommendations in my pocket and am gonna do some research on the top 20 best theatres ever built in America before the journey. Besides movies, I want to see some live performances as well... Angel

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:16 AM

Unless I miss my guess that's the on-board theater on the Normandie.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:44 AM

Flintlock76
Unless I miss my guess that's the on-board theater on the Normandie.

Here's another view of it.

Mind you, there was a Normandie Theatre in New York ... but it's different.  You can guess the inspiration, of course (it was opened in 1938):

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:16 AM

A nice Art Deco design.  It would fit in nicely on Ocean Blvd. in Miami Beach.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:48 AM

I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.

The mention of Art Deco finally triggered a memory.  For a great train movie how about 1974's "Murder On The Orient Express?"

A delight of a period piece, Lady Firestorm and I saw it when it came out, and as soon as the credits rolled she sighed  "OHHH, look at the Art Deco!"

She's a connoiseur of such things!

Anyway, ever see a train dance?  Watch the "O-E" waltz it's way out of the station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdnXwFz5Zc   

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Posted by Penny Trains on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 6:06 PM

My favorite train movie is The Train.

But this one's for Kirk....

RIP.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:08 PM

Oh no, Kirk Douglas died.  Spartacus has fallen.  Aged 103, that's a hell of a good run for anyone.  

We're running out of legends, folks. 

And that really was Kirk doing his own singing and guitar playing.  He once said that making "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" for Disney was the most fun he ever had making any film.  

Rest in peace Kirk.  Throw down a few with John Wayne for us, will you?

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Posted by divebardave on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:52 PM

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:50 PM

In Gallup New Mexico there is a hotel called the El Rancho. It was a big deal back in the day when Route 66 was the big deal. 

Early '90's ( the year not the temp) ..the sun was starting to set and after driving all day I reached Gallup and needed a place to stay. Spotted this place all lit up like a welcoming beacon, directly across from the Santa Fe mainline. This will do! 

Turns out it was a favourite of all the huge movie star icons back in the post war and early fifties era., right along Route 66 in its glory.  So all the rooms had the name of movie stars that had stayed in that room. I asked for a room that overlooked the railroad tracks and ground level if possible. No problem.  Looking around the place was a time warp, looks a bit like its aging, a faded glory, but with a developing patina. 

It was the Kirk Douglas room! Heavy dark timbers, matching wooden window 'storm' type closures that folded away or folded in and blocked out the light and sound. A beautiful private wild flower garden out back. A perfect view of the trains of the Santa Fe from the front. I thought ' boy am I ever lucky, Kirk Douglas must have stayed here, it's absolutely perfect!

At some point along our SpaceTime journey there has to be a get together of all the people that stayed in the Kirk Douglas room with Kirk Douglas himself as the MC.  Looking forward to that, it'll be a hoot. 

Postscript: Stayed there again on my last great Amtrak trip 2004, but this time I made a reservation ahead of time and of course requested the Kirk Douglas room. It was great yet again and I was not at all disappointed. 

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:41 PM

Great story Vince!  And I'd guess your imagination must have run riot thinking of all the others who may have been in that room.

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:44 PM

Yeah I'm sure there are some great stories about that room. Also primo spot for watching the SF mainline! I mean come on!!

Kirk Douglas and The El Rancho 

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:35 AM
Tough Guys/ SP Daylight

Tough Guys (1986)
 
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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:00 AM

I remember seeing "Tough Guys" when it came out, VERY funny movie!

And that really is Doyle McCormack in the engineer's seat of 4449 when they attempt to rob the recreated "Daylight."   

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:49 PM
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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 3:08 PM

Michael Douglas tells a story of when he and his brother went to see "Lust for Life" they ran screaming out of the theater when Dad (playing Van Gogh) cut his ear off!

It was TOO realistic! 

They say for a movie to work it requires what's called a "Willing suspension of disbelief" on the part of the viewer.  Sure worked in that case!

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Posted by Jones1945 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:08 PM

Miningman
Tough Guys/ SP Daylight

Tough Guys (1986)
 
 

I love how Burt Lancaster's right leg blocked the headlights of the GS-4 in the poster! The only thing I don't like on the GS-4 is exactly the twin headlights! The single headlight on GS-2 and GS-3 looked much better IMO. IF PRR added an extra headlight on the S1 in the same manner, I would hate it as well; IF I were the designer, I would have placed the mars light like how MILW placed it on their S-3 #261. 

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