Some Random Classic Pics perhaps worthy of Discussion

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, August 30, 2020 8:50 AM

Oh yeah, the D&H's monster Consols, if I remember correctly they were the biggest 2-8-0's owned by anyone.  A product of Leonor Loree's late-in-life conservatism they were great for drag freights but not much else.  I believe they didn't even have stokers, Loree wanting a "Day's work for a day's pay."  The firemen worked their butts off on 'em.  

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:59 AM

This is a product from the D&H Conductor thread on the Trains General Forum

I photographically rerailed the tender of this Consolidation, but needed to erase the other 2-8-0 that had pushed the tender's rear off the track because the engineer was distracted by a more serious event in the yard adjacent to the Carbondale, PA passenger station.  In this area, the D&H used Consols for everything, passenger, freight, switching.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:15 PM

Those RS-18's are interesting, in a way they remind me of a beautifully painted and maintained GP7 ( or 9) I saw 30 years ago at the DuPont plant in South Richmond that they used for switching.  Unfortunately I didn't have a camera with me.  Even more unfortunately the first time I saw it was the last time, we lost the account several months later.  

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:33 PM

A Century-418 ?! Could be. Very late model RS-18 for Inco in Thompson Manitoba. 

Other rare features are the -2,-3 and so on on the numbering and that sort of neat but seldom seen paint scheme. Definitely not used in Sudbury.

INCO 

Thompson 

INCO 208-2 and 208-3 part of 3 unit order (208-4 to follow built 8/1968) MLW M3497-01 4/1958, -02 5/1958

Notice the numberboards only display the dash numeral, 3 etc.

Note: These units were very late model RS-18's built long after MLW introduced the Century series. 
These units (plus QIT 6) had newer features of the Century models and thus could be considered C-418.

Subsequent owners; 208-3 and 208-4 sold in 1995 to OSR. 

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, August 21, 2020 9:37 PM

Decals?  I remember when Micro-Scale came out with a decal for this famous B-24 50 years ago.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightning72/4102625570  

It made a lot of modelers VERY happy!  Although in the club we felt sorry for the guys who'd just hand painted it on their models.

I wonder what decal technology could do now?

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, August 21, 2020 5:30 PM

Whaaat! Decal sets you say?

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Posted by pennytrains on Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:12 PM

Flintlock76
It couldn't have come out of the car shop like that, could it?

Well, I can tell you one thing, there are a fair amount of decal sets out there in many scales!

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Posted by GeoffS on Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:52 PM

My son and I were just out Thursday afternoon train watching along NS north of Duncannon PA @ about MP 125. Did not even turn into our spot when a train comes along of covered hoppers. Gray hopper after gray hopper goes by but near the end another strange color is seen. On this poor faded car it said ROUTE ROCK. I was so shocked to see it I did not get the new owners markings! But, they are still out there!

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 20, 2020 8:24 AM

Wish to second the throughts expressed by others about the Danial Webster paint scheme being an exception ot oterwise good designs.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:35 PM

Miningman

Alberta.... boring!

 

Mamma mia!  

As a rule I have no use for "tagging" but after seeing that I'll have to rethink things a bit.

It couldn't have come out of the car shop like that, could it?

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:43 PM

Certainly far better and classier than WAP! 

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:12 PM

One of the things I did was a proposal for Amtrak dining cars in the great age of purple in Amtrak and AutoTrain decor.  This had tables with the appearance of inlaid marquetry and 'bar finish' clear epoxy for durability, and 'nonwoven' tablecloths and napkins that could be washed but just as easily 'recycled' if badly stained ... or stolen for souvenirs.  After eating hours the tables folded down against the walls and the car became a disco with a full light show and sound system built into the channels in the overhead.

Hokey perhaps but it would have been fun, especially with the car attendants in hot pants...

 

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 6:23 PM

Over on Trains some folks were discussing the blandness of Amtrak decor versus the fabulous themes in passenger cars post WWII.

For a while though Amtrak gave it a go, perhaps influenced by all the equipment they inherited and tradition. 

And also in other ways.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:17 PM

I regret to say it took me a while to figure it out. Dunce

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 11:55 AM

Indeed! Good one.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:16 AM

Miningman

Alberta.... boring!

  

Now, this is really boring:

 

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 12:00 AM

Without the winter.  Still quite nice.

 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Monday, August 17, 2020 11:49 PM

I was hoping you would find that one, I'd probably get banned again for posting it.

If anyone asks, they are all painted like that (we're very open-minded up here) Wink

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, August 17, 2020 11:45 PM

Alberta.... boring!

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Posted by SD70Dude on Monday, August 17, 2020 11:29 PM

jeffhergert

Time is ticking away for them.

Jeff

Yes indeed, besides the 40 and 50 year age limitations CN now has a total of 2500 new high-capacity grain cars either in service or on order (all from National Steel Car in Hamilton, ON).  A number of prominent grain shippers out here have also acquired their own fleets over the past few years. 

The ex-Rock Island cars are only a small minority of the soon to be retired fleet, there are still hundreds if not thousands of cylindrical four bay hoppers still in service out here, these being the former Canadian Wheat Board and Provincial government fleets, nicknamed 'Trudeau Hoppers' after the Prime Minister who bought them.  They have been a everyday sight across the Canadian prairies for decades, having replaced the previously ubiquitous 40' boxcar in grain service. 

And yes, despite being modern compared to F-units or steam this iconic Canadian car design is very worthy of preservation.  That's all I can say for now. 

ALPX 628006

 

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, August 17, 2020 10:59 PM

SD70Dude

I quite like the McGinnis colours, even though I despise the man.

We still have lots of these in revenue service, Illinois Central and/or Grand Trunk Western must have bought a big portion of Rock Island's grain car fleet after the final bankruptcy.  The (very faded) logos and lettering are still readable on many of them.

Simple pleasure of watching a grain train go by and playing ...

 

Many of them went to the CNW and to the SSW.  Of those, most now have been sold off to other owners.  The last ones arrived on the RI in '78/79.  Time is ticking away for them.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, August 17, 2020 10:07 PM

SD70Dude
I quite like the McGinnis colors, even though I despise the man.

Then you will like the fact that you don't even have to acknowledge that the 'McGinnis' with reference to the paint scheme refers to his wife, who set the thing up (note that it is 'colors' because the business is American).  The 'official' name is the Matter scheme, for the then-famous designer who did the work.

As I have noted before, he went through an AWFUL lot of duds before arriving at the rather delightful elements in the final designs (which play around with the colors depending on locomotive type).  See the YouTube video, but keep aspirin and Dramamine near.

https://vimeo.com/57203024

I am not as certain that I like his version for B&M nearly as much...

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, August 17, 2020 9:10 PM

Overmod
Are you sure you want to say ALL?

Uh, yeah, I see what you mean.  I wasn't aware the "Daniel Webster" even existed.  Well, it's a wasted day if you don't learn something new.  Man, that thing's really ugly!  

Oh well, even Babe Ruth didn't hit a home run every time at bat.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Monday, August 17, 2020 8:43 PM

I quite like the McGinnis colours, even though I despise the man.

We still have lots of these in revenue service, Illinois Central and/or Grand Trunk Western must have bought a big portion of Rock Island's grain car fleet after the final bankruptcy.  The (very faded) logos and lettering are still readable on many of them.

Simple pleasure of watching a grain train go by and playing ...

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, August 17, 2020 7:57 PM

Yeah it even toured here through Southern Ontario on the CASO but we showed it the door pronto.

 

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Posted by pennytrains on Monday, August 17, 2020 7:11 PM

Well...that one is certainly questionable.  Wink

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, August 17, 2020 5:26 PM
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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, August 17, 2020 9:28 AM

I saw one of those sky blue "Rock" boxcars pass through Richmond about two years ago, it looked like it had a skin disease but was still recognizable.  Quite a shock to see it though!  

And it seemed the New Haven just couldn't settle on a paint scheme once diesels and modern electrics came along, but the thing is they ALL looked good!  

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, August 17, 2020 12:29 AM

I liked it and still do.

But then I also liked the McGinnis New Haven scheme and still do.

But thls variation even better:

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, August 16, 2020 11:50 PM

With the end a few years away, the Rock Island, always struggling, gave it a good go with a new look. A household name and a sprawling system it was always the underdog and a railfan favourite.

This certainly gave a good impression and at least pointed to a new and hopeful future.

Never really cared too much for this scheme, always found it a bit garish but it was the times and perhaps in scenes such as this it gave a good impression.

 

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