Very strange things

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Posted by Penny Trains on Friday, May 15, 2020 7:59 PM

Do you suppose there's a windshield on the side we can't see of #1?

#3 is the only kind of diesel that should be operated with a steam loco in excursion service: one that has a photography platform.

No 5 needs more accoutrements:

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Posted by M636C on Friday, May 15, 2020 10:43 PM

 It appears that the builder of this locomotive was familiar with the 1928 Krupp Zoelly Turbine T18 1001.

I spent some time recalling where I had seen the twin cylindrical condensers just above the driving wheels on a locomotive until I remembered:

http://douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/germturb/germturb.htm

I note the coupling rods on the strange locomotive are in fact solid with the truss on the outside (at least, you can't see through the truss). But nothing appears to drive the third driving axle, even assuming the first axle is geared to a a turbine.

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Posted by M636C on Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:34 AM

This photo appears to have been taken later than the side view (the leading truck has derailed and the nearer rail has disppeared beneath dirt, and the boxcar(?) behind the locomotive has moved out of frame or disappeared.

It seems our designer had seen the Swiss Zoelly locomotive as well and has incorporated its condensers, as well as those of the Krupp locomotive listed in the earlier post (well, it has at least two turbines) but a rather more significant error is that the Swiss condensers are located IN FRONT OF the turbine in the steam flow which would tend to reduce its efficiency unless it is a hydraulic turbine.

In the first photo, the Swiss condensers are faired into the steam pipe but not in the second photo - perhaps the fairings just fell off at some time?

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:09 AM

That that would be something to be trackside to listen to and watch those Zoelly Turbines back in the day. 

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Posted by Jones1945 on Saturday, May 16, 2020 3:04 PM

Believe it or not, this is a screenshot of the computer game "Fallout 4", a very popular action role-playing, open-world sandbox game. The game is set within an open world post-apocalyptic environment that encompasses the city of Boston and the surrounding Massachusetts region known as "The Commonwealth". The main story takes place in the year 2287, ten years after the events of Fallout 3 and 210 years after "The Great War", which caused catastrophic nuclear devastation across the United States. Player finish missions after mission within a 100 km2 area.

When I played this game, I didn't notice there was more than one version of this steampunk engine, one was a 6-8-4, another one was a 4-8-4. In this game, a player could build their own settlement anywhere inside the mentioned area, and this was what I built on an island, the Hotel Normandie:

The building was supposed to be much taller but it reached the height limited in the game. 

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Posted by M636C on Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:23 PM

Believe it or not, this is a screenshot of the computer game "Fallout 4", a very popular action role-playing, open-world sandbox game.

I have seen a lot of computer generated imagery, and I have never seen variations like that seen between the two views of the same locomotive. The change in ground level particularly would have no meaning in a game, just as the missing end fairings on the forward condensers have no reason  to be there in one view and missing in another. I feel this might be a real item just incorporated in the game. There is a full size steampunk locomotive in New Zealand that I know of, not as impressive as this, of course.

It is the same locomotive in the two views, a 6-8-4 in both cases. the leading axle is obscured in the side view by trees. It would be unusual to put a tree in front of a CG image intentionally. And why is there a boxcar in one view and not in the other, and why does that boxcar not have a conventional coupler and truck in the view it is seen?

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Posted by Jones1945 on Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:10 PM

Peter, you are right about the wheel arrangement, but that is really a screencap from the PC game "Fallout 4". More screenshots of this engine:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=710074558

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/27041/

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Posted by M636C on Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:11 PM

I've never played a computer game and my experience with CG images is restricted to engineering drawings.

I have no idea how the images were put together, but the discrepancies are at least interesting....

Peter

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