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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, March 19, 2017 3:58 PM


After 1957Edit

The bridges at Cornwall were removed by the St. Lawrence Seaway, the south span in 1958 and the north span in 1965. Meanwhile, Canadian National Railways purchased the Canadian portion of the route in April 1957 and used the rails to build a new hump yard in Montreal. They left a section from Hawthorne to the Terminal Avenue Yard in Ottawa, and then by the end of 1957 reopened a portion from Hawthorne to Ramsayville. This relaid section was removed in 1972. The remaining track in Ottawa was in service until 2002 when the Ottawa Central Railway removed the tracks opposite the Canada Science and Technology Museum to the yard. On November 1, 2008 the Ottawa Central was purchased by Canadian National Railway. In Cornwall, the track was relaid from the Canadian National Railway main line to what was once Cornwall Junctionin 1971 as the Wesco Spur.

In the United States, the track from Rooseveltown to Helena has remained in use since the New York Central Railroad years. It has managed to survive Penn Central TransportationConrail, and CSX ownership and is still in use presently. The track in Tupper Lake was used until Penn Central abandoned it in 1972, but was put back in service by the Adirondack Railway from 1979 to 1981. Today, the tracks remain on the right-of-way for future use by the Adirondack Scenic Railroad. They have been pulled up at the road crossings, but the connection to the Adirondack Branch is still in place.

When one mentions the New York Central you immediately think Grand Central, Hudson's, Niagara's, 20th Century Ltd, 4 Track Mainlines and so on.

However, it really was a small time, rural, Hooterville operation in all the states and provinces it served. I suppose all those little veinlets fed into the secondaries and into the mains. Almost all of them had small time but vital passenger service that lasted a very long time, with the last of them extinct by 1960. 

I'm willing to wager that the Ottawa Division played a bigger and important role in WWII that few know about. 

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Posted by NDG on Sunday, March 19, 2017 5:17 PM




Dear Sir,

Your recent entry solves a mystery!!!

When they lifted the NYC on the Ottawa Side of Old Cornwall Junction, just the RoW was left.  ( Duh. ) and when they relocated the CNR and Old Hwy. 2 account the dam just upstream, the  NEW Hwy 2 crossed the old NYC alignment, here.,+ON/@45.0308643,-74.7648318,562m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4ccc19cb8559e755:0x5037b28c7231430!8m2!3d45.0212762!4d-74.730345

But, then, in the late Fifties, there was NO STEEL!!!

However, as New Hwy. 2 was on the OLD CNR RoW, there were still  NYC ' Home ' Semaphore Signals protecting the former CNR at the removed Diamond, now the Highway, the CN Interlocking removed when the highway constructed.

Your data says they relaid steel on this piece of the NYC in 1971 for the Wesco Spur, explaining as to why there is track there, now/again, Home signals long gone.

Both the NYC and the former CNR can be followed North or West on Google, the CN dipping in and out of the new lake upstream.

Before they lifted the steel on the CNR, this Mogul, CN 88 GT 1008 was located here before the original CN line removed, now flooded both ways as per Google.,+ON/@44.9404319,-75.0892946,141m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4ccc19cb8559e755:0x5037b28c7231430!8m2!3d45.0212762!4d-74.730345

CN 89 is at Strasburg.

As is CN 7312

CN 86 w the large headlight is at London, Ont.

I read in your TTs the Border at Cornwall was named Uscan M. 69, the piers of the former NYC bridge can be seen, here. So much found out in a few entries!!,+ON/@45.0096764,-74.7478941,563m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4ccc19cb8559e755:0x5037b28c7231430!8m2!3d45.0212762!4d-74.730345

Well, Starbucks calls, Five 5 miles, return.

The Kat is sleeping after a stressful day, yesterday. Thinking about Destiny. In a ' Closed ' mood, rite now.

Will add more.

Cornwall had an Electric Trolley Freight operation that lasted into the Seventies we used to visit from time to time.

Thank You.

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, March 20, 2017 1:44 PM

Cornwall Freight motors. #8 and #12...Baldwin Westinghouse.

#8 ex Aroostook Valley purchase 1946, #12 ex Utah Idaho Central purchased 1948.

They lasted until October 1971 when CN bought the line and Dieselized it. ( Boooo )


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