Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).

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Posted by rcdrye on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 7:42 PM

After its B&M/MEC service as the Flying Yankee, the Budd-built train served as the Minuteman to Troy, and the B&M/MEC Mountaineer through Crawford Notch to Littleton/Bethlehem before settling down to a long period as the Cheshire between Boston and White River Junction via Bellows Falls.  The Cheshire required a backup move using the joint-with-Rutland "Patch Track" in Bellows Falls to get from the Cheshire Branch to the Conn River Line.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Saturday, August 11, 2018 6:27 PM

Regularly assigned engine Pacific #2332 with the spiffy looking smoke deflectors was regularly assigned to this train for many years. I know this is a bit of a groaner question, maybe a stretch, but I'm hoping there are enough clues in the photos that you can fiqure out which train it is. 

G3 class Pacific 2332 complete with smoke deflectors regularly assigned  June 1952 Ken McDonald  

Love this photo!  There are at least 3 - possibly 4 - turnouts (switches) in curves on the left side of this photo (the 4th, just to the left of the baggage car, might be a "Y" type instead - hard to tell from this perspective).  They're a professional specialty of mine - I did a paper and a presentation on them at the AREMA conference a few years back.  They're one of those things that are not supposed to be done as a track engineer or maintenance supervisor, but I see them quite frequently.  I don't even bother to hunt for them anymore - they just show up, and I suppose I've subconsciously trained myself to recognize them.  But this takes the jackpot - aside from a photo of a NYC yard with a curved ladder that Mike/ Wanswheel posted a few years ago, this might be the most number of curved turnouts I've ever seen in one image.  Thanks for sharing, Miningman!

- PDN. 

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, August 11, 2018 8:18 PM

I did not know that. As they say you learn something every day. I thought the unusal and complicated  track work was a clue as to location and  then easier to identify the train. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:18 AM

I missed the "Moutaineer" sojourn of the train, possibly because it was the one route I never rode, even when a B&M employee, but got the others.  Do I get to ask the next question?

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Posted by rcdrye on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 7:18 PM

Do I get to ask the next question?

Please do.

Just a note about the Mountaineer, which was a joint train with MEC like the Flying Yankee.  B&M and MEC tried that run when the Yankee proved too small for the demand it created.  Conventional trains with American Flyer cars took over.  The Mountaineer route proved a bit much for the single power truck.  B&M seems to have taken over the train around 1938.  Though the train ran reasonably well as the Minuteman through the Hoosac Tunnel to Troy, its longest assignment was on the Cheshire, where it suited the modest grades and twisty roadbed just fine.  Some Boston-Portland runs were also operated as the Businessman.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:10 AM

AS you know, some transit systems did not replace electric rail service with gas and then diesel buses, but convertged to trolleubuses insteaqd.  Remaining N. American TB systems are Vancouver, Seattle, San Franciscfo, Dayton, Philasdelphia, and Boston-Cambridge.  One systgejm that is presentlyh all-diesel-bus, had a vast TB system.  The system servers a larage city and a small city, the latter more another center for emplyment and shopping rather than just a suburb of the large city. The conversion from streetcar to TB began with the local lines of the small city, which were largely single-track in pavement, and conversion to TB allowed improved service, better time-keeping, and less confrontation with auto traffic.  The next round of conversion to TB included the interurban line linnking the two cities, possibly the only case of that kind in North America.  It was, and as operated by diesel buses today, an interurban line, despite the use for many years of typical lightweight double-end one-man streetcars on the route up to conversion to TB.   The one-man lightweights served elsewhere, and later so did the TBs.

The two cities please?


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