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If you had the money, permission and power....

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If you had the money, permission and power....
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 10:43 AM
My vote goes to the T&P #610. It would just be so great to see her thundering again through Texas!
I recently heard that #610 has lost her booster, so I guess she won´t get back her 97.000 Ibs of tractive effort again. Does somebody of you know any closer information?
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Posted by John Krug on Friday, December 16, 2005 2:22 PM
Although it would be quite restricted, I can't think of anything more awesome than a Big Boy in full stride up a grade with a long excursion train!
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Posted by PBenham on Friday, December 16, 2005 4:46 PM
I would want 1218 back, what a show she could put on! I rode behind her three times and each time I learned some thing about how well the Roanoke Shops and N&W's engineering/design staff did their jobs! She could move 25-30 passenger cars (85% lightweight/15% heavyweight) at 40 MPH, the top of her horsepower curve without breathing hard. Now, when she had to she could pull, like when she walked out of Conneaut, Ohio's yard in a very heavy rain with no sand (Might foul the switches) and making it on one try! WOW.I'd pay just to watch her run by! The only other choice for this high honor, a set of Lehigh Valley PAs! But, you asked about steam and 1218 is my choice.
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:58 PM
Either of the CP Sekirks. BTW, they are 5900 series, not 3900. If I had to choose, I'd say 5931, but doubleheading would be sweet!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:41 PM
sorry, of course they are 5931 and 5935. I´m sorry for that. It was a silly writing mistake. Yeah, I also think that the doubleheading idea would be superb. Two Selkirks pulling a 30 car Canadian would be a perfect thing to watch and enjoy.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:50 PM
It would be awesome riding over Donner pass behind a cab forward[:p][:D][8D]!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:46 PM
I would have to go for the GN 4-8-4 just my great grandfather worked for the Great Northern
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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

It would be awesome riding over Donner pass behind a cab forward[:p][:D][8D]!!!

[#ditto]
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, December 19, 2005 6:55 PM
The problem with bringing some of these back is where in the world you would run the excursion. Bringing a Big Boy back is technically feasible, but as a UP person (sorry I don’t remember his name or title) in the steam program point out – Where would you run it? Just between Cheyenne and Laramie? It could not come south to Denver. Run forward to the middle of no where and then reverse back to Laramie. Not much of an excursion. They had seriously considered this and decided it was not worth it to restore a locomotive with such little space to operate.

There is very little class 5 track left in the country (the BNSF even downgraded the race track to class 4) , and there are so few places a locomotive that large can be turned. I saw what was left of the wye track in Seattle after they turned the 844, so I can imagine what a larger locomotive would have done to it. The same goes for the 9000 class, and all the ten-coupled locos being proposed. This is why they (UP) often prefer using the 3985. Since it is only six coupled and articulated it can get to some places the 4-8-4 can’t.

I believe with the track (and roundhouses) we currently have in the country an eight coupled is the largest practical. I would think ideally the 4-6-4s would make great excursion locomotives.

Oh yeah, to answer the question. There is a Santa Fe heavy Prairie class 2-6-2 Baldwin locomotive sitting in Lamar Colorado. That is one sweet locomotive that deserves to run again. My cousin remembers when it was moved to the display position on courthouse lawn under its own power. (It has since been moved back to the RR station - not under its own power).
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Posted by Tim Burton on Monday, December 19, 2005 11:44 PM
I need to see pictures to decide.
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:20 PM
I would love to see a UP 9000 class in full steam.[:D]

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Posted by txhighballer on Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:04 PM
The 610 lost her booster at the 1976 rebuilding. Even so,she still has 84,000 pounds TE.
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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:59 PM
I'd vote for 610, and there would not be any problem given the cash in finding ways of keeping her in coal and water and lubricants and sand. And no problem with clearances on just about any main line.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 2, 2006 6:23 PM
N&W #1218[:D] but it was placed on PERMANENT display in a mueseum[:(][:(] I've seen it on TV but would love to see it run in person.
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Posted by Bill H. on Friday, January 6, 2006 6:29 PM
I chose the SP #5021 4-10-2 only because none of my all time favorites exist.

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Posted by Gunns on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:52 AM
LOL,
ya didn't mention my favorite..... the AT&SF 2926 the heaviest 4-8-4 ever built. We hope to re assemble the tender this year, (Wheel sets have been U/S tested, Brakes have been rebuilt, water tank has been descaled, oil bunker cleaned and painted, all have been sand blasted and primered) Then we start on the Asbestos abatment... give us 6 years or so and we will be running. (Faster with more money)
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Posted by coborn35 on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:58 AM
You didnt mention Dultuh,MIssabe and Iron Range #227!! A 2-8-8-4 Mallet! It had more tractive effort than the Big Boy!

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Posted by palallin on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:26 PM
Not on the list; Frisco 1522. The new FRA rules combined with the insurance massacre plus lukewarm support from the Been Nuthin' Since Frisco forced the St.LSTA to drop her fires despite being in excellent shape and very popular on the excursion circuit.
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Posted by JanOlov on Friday, June 2, 2006 11:30 AM
If I had the money, permission and power..... I'd try to get back as many as possible to running order.....the more steamengines that's running the better, right folks?
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Posted by PBenham on Friday, June 2, 2006 4:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JanOlov

If I had the money, permission and power..... I'd try to get back as many as possible to running order.....the more steamengines that's running the better, right folks?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 4, 2006 11:31 AM
My vote would have to go with the N&W 611. Man, what a legend!

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