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Illinois Central Steam Specifications?
Posted by Dr Leonard on Monday, January 31, 2005 10:00 PM
Is there an Internet source for specifications of Illinois Central steam power in the 1950s? I need something that pins the specs down to particular classes identifiable by number. Failing that, maybe somebody has a book that has this info and would answer some questions for me.
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Posted by feltonhill on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 6:15 AM
I have specs on some of IC's classes, but they're collected from many sources and vary in level of detail. Some listings are pretty much complete, others only haveinfo that can be extracted from a photo. Which ones are you interested in?
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Posted by Dr Leonard on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 10:57 AM
I have photos I took of several IC engines in the 1950s on my web site, http://members.aol.com/rlsteam . Specifically, I would like dimensions for the following:

Pacific No. 2086
Mikados Nos. 1362 and 1518
The 900 series Consolidations (e.g., 902 and 908)
The 2500-series Mountains (I have most dimensions for these)

What I am looking for is:
driver diameter
cylinder diameter and stroke
boiler pressure
locomotive weight
tractive effort (main plus booster if any),
evaporative heating surface
grate area
tender capacity
original builder and date
date of Paducah rebuild if applicable

Any of the above information is helpful. The "Standard Steam Locomotives" site has some specifications for the Mountains but not for the others.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Posted by feltonhill on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 7:18 PM
Don’t have anything on 2086, or 902 & 908
Added a couple of things below

2-8-2 1200-1499
Driver diameter - 63.5"
Cylinder bore&stroke - 27"x 30"
Boiler pr - 225 psi
Wt, engine - don’t have
Wt, tender - don’t have
Wt, engine + tender - 525,000 lbs
TE - 69,743 lbs.(IC uses a BP factor of 0.90 instead of 0.85 in the TE formula)
Evap htg surface+superheating surface - 3,042 sf + 969 sf = 4011 sf
Grate area - 70.4 sf
Tender capacity - 16 t, 13,000 gal
Date built (don’t have builder) - 1923
Rebuild date (don’t have rebuild date)

4-8-2 2500-2555
Driver diameter - 70"
Cylinder bore&stroke - 30"x 30"
Boiler pr - 240 psi
Wt, engine - 409,500 lbs
Wt. tender - 225,500 lbs
TE - 70,125 lbs (same TE note as above)
Evap htg surface+superheating surface - no data
Grate area - no data
Tender capacity - 24 t, 11,000 gal
Date built (don’t have builder) - 1937-1942
Rebuild date (above data may be rebuild, don’t know)

Specifications can vary depending on the source. The best thing to look for is locomotive diagrams. Sometimes RR historical societies have them for sale in their on-line book stores. Wish I knew more about IC, but I’m more of an easterner (PRR, NYC, N&W, C&O.....), so the above stats are copied from several sources: Pocket Guide to American Locomotives, Mainline Modeler 9/84, and America Locomotives.
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Posted by Dr Leonard on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 10:49 PM
Thanks, this is helpful. Anyone else out there have more information?
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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 1:42 PM
Railroad History 140, pp. 10-114 has an all-time IC roster This should have just about everything you need.

work safe

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 30, 2006 12:14 PM
I know it's years ago, but are you still looking for IC steam specs. I have PDFs of IC diagram books supplied to me by Allen Stanley of Greer, South Carolina. I'd be happy to locate the relevant pages and send them along.
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Posted by TRAINER_1958 on Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:58 AM
ALL IC 2500 SERIES WERE REBUILT FROM 2-10-2s BY IC(PADUCAH)1937-1942 & ALL IC 2600 SERIES WERE BUILT NEW BY IC(PADUCAH)INCLUDING BOILERS
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Posted by TRAINER_1958 on Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:02 AM
OOPS HOPE MY OTHER POST HELPS
ICMOUNTAIN
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 20, 2006 11:43 AM
Richard,
I've printed three screens from my Locobase database that has the data you're looking for and I plan to provide more from home. Do you want the actual page entries from the diagram books?

Since I can't figure out how to attach a short document to this reply, I'll be happy to send it directly to your email address. Let me know if that works for you.

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Posted by greendiamond on Friday, March 24, 2006 2:20 PM
Try the folks at the Illinois Central Modelers group or Illinois Central group at Yahoo Groups.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/illinois-central-model

Don't know if the link will be active. If not just cut and paste it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 6:40 PM
Steve (taluga62),
I would be interested in any diagrams you might have of IC 2400 series 4-8-2 steam locos. I may have located someone to scratchbuild one for me and he would need detailed drawings. I would really appreciate it if you could email me what you have. Thanks.
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Posted by Dr Leonard on Sunday, April 9, 2006 8:41 PM
Ray Breyer sent me an Excel spreadsheet of his all-time IC steam roster that has all the information I need. Thanks, everyone, for your help.

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