STUDY A NEW YORK CENTRAL 4-8-4 p.30

[wjstix]

This is on the cover of the Winter 2022 Classic Trains. Only problem is the story on p.30 is about NYC 5344, the famous 4-6-4 Hudson.

[Overmod]

Recently, Kalmbach often offers more than it delivers. 

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Hopefully, my issue will be in the mail soon...

[BigJim]

Don't get too excited. Just two pages of something you have seen before.

[wjstix]

A 4-8-4 Hudson? I've never seen that before! 

[daveklepper]

It is called a Niagra.

[wjstix]

But NYC 5344 wasn't a Niagara. It was the most famous NYC Hudson...which, apparently someone at Classic Trains doesn't know means it's a 4-6-4, not a 4-8-4. 

 

[daveklepper]

Of course!   But anyone can make a mistake.  He may not have even looked at the drivers and sinply assumed that the most famous power was the best power, and nobody would dispute that the Niagaras were even better than the J3as.

[wjstix]

Well, the article is correct. It's the 'blurb' on the cover that's wrong. 

https://www.trains.com/ctr/magazine/archive-access/classic-trains-winter-2022/

Down by the price / scantag.

[Overmod]

Repeat after me:  IT IS NOT 'NIAGRA'!

It is a locomotive, not an erectile-dysfunction nostrum.

Like the river, it is 'Niagara'.

Interestingly enough, the Mexican 4-8-4s aren't 'Niagras' either (although careless or witless railfans often try to make out that they were).  The difference in spelling is only an accent over the first A, although the difference in pronunciation is profound.  We say "nye-AGG-rah"; the Spanish is like "Nee-AH-hah-rah".  Even more interesting enough, the Spanish pronunciation is MUCH more like the actual Native American name of the river in question...

[daveklepper]

Thanks for the correction.  I'll try to keep it in mind in the future.   Never to okd to try to correct past mistakes.

[wjstix]

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Like the river, it is 'Niagara'.

New York Central was "the water level route" so named it's locomotive types after the rivers it ran alongside: Mohawks, Niagaras, Hudsons.

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wjstix

 

 

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Like the river, it is 'Niagara'.

 

 

New York Central was "the water level route" so named it's locomotive types after the rivers it ran alongside: Mohawks, Niagaras, Hudsons.

 

Unless it's a "Berkshire"!

Yeah, I know it was a subsidiary.

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Unless it's a "Berkshire"!

Built to dominate a run through the eponymous mountains.  Which it did!

I still think it's a shame B&A/NYC never had a type name for the 4-6-6Ts.  

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I still think it's a shame B&A/NYC never had a type name for the 4-6-6Ts.  

I'm thinking, I'm thinking!  It may be 80 years late, but we can come up with something!

[wjstix]

I've read that when New York Central System added the Boston & Albany, the first engines and cabooses on the line with New York Central lettering were pelted with rocks by the New Englanders, who resented the hated New Yorkers taking over "their" railroad. NYCS ended up just using B&A-decorated equipment on the B&A for a generation or two.