"City" trains before Amtrak.

[NP Eddie]

ALL:

This is question about the "City to Everywhere" trains.

How long where they to and from Ogden and did the MILW need to double over trains at CUS going and coming? Page 170 of "Car Numbers and Consists" states that UP placed steam generating equipment in five baggage cars to heat the rear of long "City" trains.

Ed Burns

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[Overmod]

This is covered far more extensively in the relevant section of Kratville's book on the 'Streamliners' than I could deficiently cover in a post.

[rcdrye]

The "City of Everywhere" used the through tracks (28 and 30) connected to north side track 19. The combined platform length was long enough for the entire train.  By Ogden westbound the Denver and Portland cars were gone, and the SP cars had to be moved anyway.  Eastbound only the "COLA" ad City of SF were combined at Ogden, with the Portland cars added at Green River Wyoming, and the Denver cars at North Platte.

[MidlandMike]

Was the St. Louis section (?) gone by this time?

[BaltACD]

MidlandMike

Was the St. Louis section (?) gone by this time?

Appears the City of St. Louis ran as a separte train between St. Louis and Ogden, UT where it was combined with the section of the City of Everywhere that went to LA or San Francisco in the days just before Amtrak.  The City of St.L ran right up to Amtrak.

[rcdrye]

The City of St. Louis became the City of Kansas City in 1968, when the N&W (Wabash) dropped its piece. In heavy traffic periods it may have run as a second section of 103/104, the City of LA/SF/Portland, but the August 1970 Official Guide shows the CofKC combining/spliiting at Cheyenne. By that time the through cars were down to a coach to Oakland and a coach and sleeper to LA.