CNR Mountains .. # 6004

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CNR Mountains .. # 6004
Posted by Miningman on Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:46 AM

CNR 6004 featured in Transcontinental Ad. Wrecked in an collision it was the first of the Mountain class 4-8-2's to be scrapped. Details below 

The Continental Limited 

The first to be retired was 6004, which was severely damaged a head-on collision with S-2-a 3538 at Canoe River, British Columbia, in November 1950. It was scrapped in June 1951 (as was the 3538). There was a gap of four years before the next U-1-a or U-1-b went: two were scrapped in 1955, four in 1957, six in 1958, six in 1959, eight in 1960, seven in 1961, and the last two, 6000 and 6001 in 1962.

One locomotive has been preserved:

 

Not quite as famous as the U-1-f Class which came during the war years.

Canadian National Railways U-1-f class locomotives, were a class of twenty 4-8-2 or Mountain type locomotives built by Montreal Locomotive Works in 1944. They were numbered 6060–6079 by CN and nicknamed "Bullet Nose Bettys" due to their distinctive cone-shape smokebox door cover.

Of the twenty locomotives that were built, only three remain in existence: 6060 owned by the Rocky Mountain Rail Societyat the Alberta Prairie RailwayStettler, Alberta; 6069 at SarniaOntario; and 6077 at the Northern Ontario Railroad Museum, at Capreol, Ontario.

 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, January 04, 2019 6:42 PM

The exact location of the Canoe River train crash no longer exists, as the curve has been straightened.  There is a small memorial at the approximate location, just like Dalehurst, Yates, and far too many others.

6015 received a new coat of paint several years ago, courtesy of a group of volunteers organized by Harry Home (of 6060 fame), who still lives in Jasper.

I will double check next time I am there, but I believe 6015 was a coal burner until retirement, and retains that configuration.  She was originally stored at the Canadian Railway Museum in Delson, and was sent to Jasper to take 6060's place on display when the latter was chosen for restoration.

6015 is also the oldest surviving locomotive built for Canadian National, the U-1-a's were their first order after the mergers and nationalization were completed.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Friday, January 04, 2019 7:45 PM

The photo was taken by Frost, Walter E. (1888-1898) in 1934.

https://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/c-n-r-steam-pass-eng-6049-at-melville-sask

A "crowned" CNR 4-8-2! In this case, I think I prefer the unstreamlined CNR U-1-d to CN U-1-f. Both classes look decent though.

 

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Posted by M636C on Friday, January 04, 2019 9:59 PM

I think I've posted this earlier but three CN Mountains hauled the 1939 Royal Train from Vancouver to Toronto.

These were U-1d 6045, the first U-1e 6047 and U-1b 6028.

I think it is clear that these locomotives hauled the train further than U=4a 6400, which only hauled the train East of Toronto.

6045 hauled the train through the mountains and partly overnight and was not painted in special colours, but both 6047 and 6028 were painted in blue and silver in much the same style as CPR 2850, even to the side valances with the road number and a crown just behind the steps.

Given the continuing publicity given to 2850 and 6400, 6028 and 6047 deserved better. I only realised that these had been used from photos in the National Archives that I stumbled across. Old Time Trains cover them quite well, however.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, January 05, 2019 9:16 AM

You know, I'm not sure what I like most after getting into rail history, the "guts 'n glory" of steam or the great ancillarys like that gorgeous CNR poster Miningman's shown us.  Pure class all around.

A great look at a lost world.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Sunday, January 13, 2019 5:36 AM

M636C

I think I've posted this earlier but three CN Mountains hauled the 1939 Royal Train from Vancouver to Toronto.

These were U-1d 6045, the first U-1e 6047 and U-1b 6028.

I think it is clear that these locomotives hauled the train further than U=4a 6400, which only hauled the train East of Toronto.

6045 hauled the train through the mountains and partly overnight and was not painted in special colours, but both 6047 and 6028 were painted in blue and silver in much the same style as CPR 2850, even to the side valances with the road number and a crown just behind the steps.

Given the continuing publicity given to 2850 and 6400, 6028 and 6047 deserved better. I only realised that these had been used from photos in the National Archives that I stumbled across. Old Time Trains cover them quite well, however.

Peter

Source: Toronto Railway Historical Association

http://www.trha.ca/trha/history/locomotives-3/4-8-2-mountain/

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:24 AM

Jones1945
 

Source: Toronto Railway Historical Association

http://www.trha.ca/trha/history/locomotives-3/4-8-2-mountain/

 

Exactly the same scheme as 2850....

6028 hauled the 1939 Royal Train into Toronto on its return from Vancouver.

A genuine "Royal Mountain" complete with crown.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:01 AM

Beautiful!

Sure would be nice to see at least one of the preserved Royal engines repainted into the special blue scheme.  If the Brits can repaint preserved engines seemingly at will then surely some folks in Ottawa or Delson can too!

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Posted by cx500 on Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:59 PM

It would indeed be nice, but of course the usual issue of funding and other more critical priorities rear their head.  As well as the paint job, various other external features should get backdated to match.

At the museum in Cranbrook, BC, one side of the business car Strathcona has been repainted into the blue scheme.  It actually was one of the cars in the royal train.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Friday, January 18, 2019 8:38 AM

M636C

 Exactly the same scheme as 2850....

6028 hauled the 1939 Royal Train into Toronto on its return from Vancouver.

A genuine "Royal Mountain" complete with crown.

Peter

I will try to find all pictures of 1939 Royal Train engine from the web and post here for a complete photo collection Smile

https://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/c-p-r-steam-pass-eng-2850-class-h1d-hudson-royal-train-3

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