It's Frosty in northeast Ohio this time of year

[Overmod]

On RyPN, Steve Heister of the Northern Ohio Railway Museum challenges us to name all the traction entities in their 'snowman':

(This would make a good quiz question, but it isn't "my" question...)

I see no reason why you can't answer here and also over on RyPN for 'street cred'...

I second their 'Happy Holidays' and add my own 'Merry Christmas!'

 

[erikem]

Presumably Northern Ohio refers to the Northern Ohio Traction & Light Company and not the Northern Ohio Telephone Company (which started in LSE territory).

Other entities include: Shaker Heights Rapid Transit; Cleveland and Eastern; Cleveland Painesville and Eastern; Cleveland and Southwesern; Lake Shore Electric.

[Miningman]

All that transit in place serving the public, efficiently and cleanly, and what of it is left? Stinky Diesel buses?

We had the right idea but lost it. 

[Miningman]

I see an opportunity here to drag out my soapbox. Here is a posting from a little while back that sort of got buried. "'Tis the season to lament on what we all had.

Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:12 PM

Have to put on my snarky hat, or conspiracy theory eyewear. 

So you say it is only fair to consider what railroad eyes saw then...Ok...how about partnerships between big oil companies, tire manufacturers and automobile manufacturers ....do you not think they had a purposeful agenda not actually based on what was best for society but on destroying a way of life and infrastructure and replacing it with their own product in both a public and private applications. 

In North America only...in the USA and Canada, ( because we here are always situated at your side, economically the samller one, tugging on your pant leg ) , this way of life and it's infrastructure had to be made to look obsolete, mercilessly and with 100% destruction. The best of the best was top priority and buried fast. It needed to be forgotten and made abscent. That future glimpse cannot be tolerated or made to continue or allow to exist. The smaller and quaint could then be handled easily with ridicule and forgotten about. 

375 Hudsons, 598 Mohawks, all the Niagaras, and thats just the Central...all the T1's and Q's, and what..where is our K4's dotting parks and museums. J's, M's?  Even Pennsylvannia Station!

2 Mohawks survive, one by sheer luck and audacity, one out of pleas and sympathy. No way they turn a wheel again though. 

Yes things were bad but what happened to all the wartime profits and massive cost saving measures. 

Today we have fake news, deep state, collusion, biased reporting, spin coming out the ying yang, the .1% .... I see parallels from back then, just the folk were easier to believe and bait. Perhaps not, but they were willing.

You can't tell me Paul J. Keiffer was a happy fella in 1955...a lifetime of achievemnt without an Oscar. Can you imagine witnessing all your Hudsons cut up, your magnificient Mohawks and Niagara's dismissed and disrespected like old fish heads. Same with those guys in the roundhouse and on the road that did all the extra's throughout the war years and beyond. Here's a gold watch, get lost. Pipefitters coming back from lunch to find they have been laid off. Too bad. 

Saw a twenty something Facebook billionaire, that's billions, saying he "will live to 160 with modern science, and wait until you see what the effects of 100 years of compound interest will do" and that he will "lord over us all". 

Only the UP survived unscathed and intact. 

 

[MidlandMike]

Miningman

All that transit in place serving the public, efficiently and cleanly, and what of it is left? Stinky Diesel buses?

We had the right idea but lost it. 

 

If your post is referring to the previous post about Cleveland rapid transit, see the linked map:

http://www.riderta.com/sites/default/files/pdf/maps/System_Map_Rapid_Connect.pdf

 

[Miningman]

I'm referring to rail transit...streetcars, interurbans and such in general. Not Diesel bus lines, but OK, nice to see that map. All cities have some kind of public transit and light rail is certainly making a comeback of sorts.

My understanding is that Cleveland itself had a very much beloved and rather famous streetcar system.

Perhaps our Cleveland specialist Penny Trains can weigh in.

[MidlandMike]

Miningman

I'm referring to rail transit...streetcars, interurbans and such in general. Not Diesel bus lines, but OK, nice to see that map. All cities have some kind of public transit and light rail is certainly making a comeback of sorts.

My understanding is that Cleveland itself had a very much beloved and rather famous streetcar system.

Perhaps our Cleveland specialist Penny Trains can weigh in.

 

The 3 rapid transit lines are rail.  The red line is heavy rail transit, and the other two are light rail, while the Waterfront line is an extension of those two lines.

[Miningman]

Thank you...makes me feel better!

So all is not lost in Cleveland...except the Browns, at least this year.