Wish I was there, luv this pic and is the Classic Quiz dead?

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Wish I was there, luv this pic and is the Classic Quiz dead?
Posted by Miningman on Friday, July 21, 2017 1:52 PM

Now this is really something. I'm about to embark on a trip and if there was a place and time to go to this would be it. #6000 to boot and a B&O Presidential Pacific and someone else in the background. Wow. 

This must have been very very close to the end for these gals yet they look pristine. Can you imagine being there that night! Thanks Classic Trains.

Nocturnal steam at Cincinnati

New York Central 4-8-4 6000 (left, the first of NYC’s famous Niagaras) and Baltimore & Ohio 4-6-2 5313 (one of B&O’s famous “President” Pacifics) simmer near Cincinnati Union Terminal one evening in September 1954.
Philip R. Hastings photo

 

Also....is the Classic Quiz finished, over, kaput? Was reading over older quiz threads comments last night...many are either not with us, such as Deggesty friend KCS Fan or just not participating any longer. Lots of great information, things we did not know. 

It is what it is I suppose. 

 

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Posted by RME on Friday, July 21, 2017 1:58 PM

Miningman
Also....is the Classic Quiz finished, over, kaput?

No, I think I'm sitting on both threads and every time I get halfway to a question I either run out of time or see something about it posted elsewhere.

If I'm "up" and it's been more than a day -- someone jump in and ask their own to keep it going.  I'd much rather answer 'stumpers' from the real experts here than come up with my own (usually excessively technical) ones.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, July 21, 2017 2:11 PM

I usually don't bother with the "Classic Railroad Quiz" because it's depressing to be shocked by your own ignorance.

But that photo!  Wow!

Reminds me of a story that was in "Classic Trains" a while back.  The writer remembered being a little boy and just loving being at the station when his "friend," a BIG Niagara, used to pull in.

Then one day his friend stopped coming.  Some thing called a diesel had taken it's place, and a friendly and sympathetic conductor told him it wouldn't be back.  Sixty years had come and gone and the heartbreak was still there.

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, July 21, 2017 4:40 PM

Yes a very touching re-cap Firelock76...something most of us experienced to one degree or another. Worse for me were the funeral trains, with familiar steam, humiliated, with recognizable #'s whitelined out spaced by decrepid rolling stock heading for the same fate. That was traumatic. CNR had many that were just rebuilt and fresh paint mostly from Stratford. The streamlined Northerns, my God, are you kidding? What? Why? 600 minus 2 Mohawks, all the Hudsons, all the Niagaras, all those Mikes...and they Pennsy? Where did they put it all? 

Once seen you can't unsee it. Glad for this photo, very powerful scene. 

RME- Yes it's getting hard to squeeze in the time and coming up with questions in a timely manner plus we seem to down to just a few dudes. Oh well it will proceed at a different pace, no big deal. 

 

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Posted by rcdrye on Friday, July 21, 2017 5:26 PM

My not very rigid rule is that if the next guy doesn't post his question in 7 days, I post another one (assuming, of course I was last one up...)  I would volunteer to moderate the quiz thread (either one) as long as I get to pose something once in a while!

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Posted by Penny Trains on Friday, July 21, 2017 6:55 PM

Miningman
is the Classic Quiz finished, over, kaput?

My problem with those is that I never seem to have the time to go through the 5000+ responses to get caught up.  It's not terribly "newbie friendly", there are questions I might ask but not knowing the content from the beginning I don't ask them.  Anyhoo.  Not a rant, just My 2 Cents.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, July 21, 2017 7:05 PM

Don't worry about it, I just jumped in and it's only on page 9,999.

No biggie.

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Posted by rcdrye on Friday, July 21, 2017 8:15 PM

Some of what were posed as simple questions led to all sorts of interesting stuff!

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, July 21, 2017 8:20 PM

rcdrye

Some of what were posed as simple questions led to all sorts of interesting stuff!

 

Oh certainly, a lot of these threads end up as a free-wheeling discussion, kind of like sitting around the coal stove at the depot with the coffee flowing freely and the doughnuts being passed around.

The only downside?  We're not really at the depot with the coffee and doughnuts and can't see each other face-to-face.  But we'll just have to make do otherwise, right?

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Friday, July 21, 2017 11:04 PM

Firelock76
rcdrye

Some of what were posed as simple questions led to all sorts of interesting stuff!

Oh certainly, a lot of these threads end up as a free-wheeling discussion, kind of like sitting around the coal stove at the depot with the coffee flowing freely and the doughnuts being passed around.

The only downside?  We're not really at the depot with the coffee and doughnuts and can't see each other face-to-face.  But we'll just have to make do otherwise, right?

I'm sitting in Timmy's hogging their free wifi right now, plenty of coffee and doughnuts for me! CoffeeSmile

No coal smoke smell unfortunately though, and I've yet to find a cologne that replicates it (not for lack of trying).

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, July 22, 2017 12:31 AM

Give it another 5 years or so and we will have virtual experience that comes along with a photograph. Holodeck, West World stuff. 

In the meantime I'll have the dark and an extra shot of espresso in it and a cruller and an apple fritter. No Timmies up here, we had an A&W but they lost their lease and are gone. Believe it or not it was, sort of, a continuation of the old NorthWest Co. vs. Hudson Bay Co. wars.  

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Saturday, July 22, 2017 1:49 AM

Miningman

No Timmies up here, we had an A&W but they lost their lease and are gone. Believe it or not it was, sort of, a continuation of the old NorthWest Co. vs. Hudson Bay Co. wars.  

That blows, those double-cheese double-bacon burgers are pretty goshdarn good (well worth the heart attack).

Didn't the NWC and HBC eventually merge?

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, July 22, 2017 3:12 AM

The North West Company was a fur trading business headquartered in Montreal from 1779 to 1821. It competed with increasing success against the Hudson's Bay Company in what is present-day Western Canada. With great wealth at stake, tensions between the companies increased to the point where several minor armed skirmishes broke out, and the two companies were forced to merge.

NorthWest Company
Private
Industry Fur trade
Fate Merger
Successor Hudson's Bay Company
Founded 1789
Founder Benjamin FrobisherJosephSimon McTavish, Robert Grant, Nicholas Montour, Patrick Small, William Holmes, George McBeath
Defunct 1821
Headquarters MontrealLower Canada
Area served
United States territory, Spanish territory, Russian Empire territory, Qing Dynasty China, British Canada

In 1987, the northern trading posts of the Hudson's Bay Company were sold to an employee consortium that revived the name The North West Company in 1990.

Many of the small settlements here in Northern Saskatchewan have the North West Co stores.

It is usually the only place they can get groceries. They do a pretty good job.

They proudly fly the NW Co. flag at their stores and do a good trade with furs and barter. 

The NW store here was closed by the owner of the building, the Hudson Bay Co. who leased it out to Giant Tiger. The A&W franchise attached was connected and NW had a financial interest in that. The restaurant has been vacant for 3 years now.

People were not too happy about any of it. I loved shopping in their store because they were the only ones open on Sunday and they really were never crazy busy. They carried some very unique brands and had a great deli with a fresh BBQ section year round , chicken, pork chops, sausages, and really crazy inexpensive. Miss it and the A&W. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:53 AM

Miningman, Lady Firestorm sympathises with you over not having a Tim Horton's nearby, she loves the tea-biscuits!  Unfortunately the nearest Timmie's to us is in Saint John's, Newfoundland!

The only tea-biscuits better than Timmie's were the ones Lady F's mother's childhood friend Lizzie Ryan used to make, but that's not an option now either. To use a quaint Newfoundland phrase Lizzie's  "...passed the light, rounded the point, crossed the bar, and dropped anchor in her last harbor."

That North-West Company coat of arms is spectacular!  I clicked on it for a closer look, and was amazed to see the beaver chewing a tree down with the motto "Perserverance."  Amazed because that was a common motif on some American regimental flags during the Revolution, although "Perserverance" was typically rendered "Perserverando." 

SD70, I just love mega-burgers myself.  As Frederick the Great said, "Rogues!  Would you live forever?"

Oh, for a coal-scented cologne, try "JT's Mega-Steam" coal-scented O gauge smoke fluid!

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Posted by NorthWest on Saturday, July 22, 2017 10:08 AM

Interesting...

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Saturday, July 22, 2017 12:13 PM

Firelock76

SD70, I just love mega-burgers myself.  As Frederick the Great said, "Rogues!  Would you live forever?"

Oh, for a coal-scented cologne, try "JT's Mega-Steam" coal-scented O gauge smoke fluid!

Tried something similar once, but that stuff seems to work best when pared with a locomotive (gives me the itches when applied to clothing), and they look at you funny when you bring model trains into a restaurant.  Oh well.

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, July 22, 2017 12:23 PM

Well, if they look at you funny if you bring a toy train into a restaurant that's THEIR problem!

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Saturday, July 22, 2017 1:40 PM

Yup, but it'll always end up like this:

"Sir, I must ask you to leave.  The other customers are complaining about the smell, and we have a no-smoking policy in our establishments."

The tables are too small for a proper layout anyway.  And if you do it on the floor people will trip over it.  Too busy twiddling on their phones to look where they're going I guess.

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, July 22, 2017 5:08 PM

Wanswheel - again Thank You! 

The native Cree here claim our Lake, which is pretty big, up there with the biggies, was carved out by a giant beaver. 

Well heck everyone knows that. 

 

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:36 PM

SD70M-2Dude
The tables are too small for a proper layout anyway. And if you do it on the floor people will trip over it

True enough.  That's why I do this in hotel rooms!  Laugh

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:55 PM

Dammit, why didn't I think of that?

Got to put a package together for the next time I go on the road.

I get O gauge withdrawal if I'm away from the layout too long. 

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Posted by Trinity River Bottoms Boomer on Monday, July 24, 2017 4:52 AM

Wanna take trains with you on the road then consider Z scale with a layout constructed in a suitcase!  Though I don't do any model railroading I'm impressed with Z and lost a bet with the owner of Modellbahn Ritzer (Nuremberg Germany) Rainer Knoch as I didn't think Z was large enough to really run trains professionally much less keep them from derailing.  I was wrong.  Z continues to grow including brass models and is worth looking into if you desire to Have Train, Will Travel!

Item: Hudson Bay Co. purchased Germany's department store chain Galeria Kaufhof GmbH officially becoming part of HB on 30 Sept. 2015.  Nice clean stores with great prices and quality merchandise!  Be sure and check the web for stores in Germany and send the wife and kids shopping Kaufhof while you're railfanning! 

I love the NorthWest Company coat of arms too.  Too bad the beaver didn't chew off both of Ewing Hunter Harrison's legs when he was busy ruining Canadian Pacific.  With a name that includes Ewing I am reminded of JR in the Dallas TV series who was a true blue Lone Star State Billionaire SOB from the Get Go! 

 

 

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Posted by RME on Monday, July 24, 2017 7:48 PM

Trinity River Bottoms Boomer
Wanna take trains with you on the road then consider Z scale with a layout constructed in a suitcase! Though I don't do any model railroading I'm impressed with Z and lost a bet with the owner of Modellbahn Ritzer (Nuremberg Germany) Rainer Knoch as I didn't think Z was large enough to really run trains professionally much less keep them from derailing. I was wrong

You might be even more impressed, as I am, with T gauge -- this is something for Penny to consider as you can have prototype curves with superelevation in your hotel room - take a look at this locomotive whose gauge is 3mm, from which you can get a sense of scale.

Here's a YouTube video showing sample layout construction:

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, July 24, 2017 8:10 PM

RME

 

 
Miningman
Also....is the Classic Quiz finished, over, kaput?

 

No, I think I'm sitting on both threads and every time I get halfway to a question I either run out of time or see something about it posted elsewhere.

If I'm "up" and it's been more than a day -- someone jump in and ask their own to keep it going.  I'd much rather answer 'stumpers' from the real experts here than come up with my own (usually excessively technical) ones.

 

To keep the headscratching going, here is a question concerning overnight service between Atlanta and Jacksonville.

In June, 101 years ago, there were three routes with overnight service between Atlanta and Jacksonville. One was coach only into Jacksonville, the other two were both coach and Pullman--and carried through sleepers from several Midwest points. One of the other two had two trains, both with through Pullmans.. Altogether, four roads were involved in the traffic. One road was controlled by another of the roads, and it carried a Pullman that ran between Atlanta and a large city in southeast Georgia.

Name the roads and the junctions.

Johnny

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