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Did PRR ever run this type of B-1?

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Did PRR ever run this type of B-1?
Posted by Bob.M on Monday, March 14, 2011 2:17 PM

I know this is not the toy train forum, but maybe someone here will know the answer. This is a picture of a model with "Pennsylvania" on it. The manufacturer is coming out with many other names in the fall. The PRR B-1 which I saw in Strasburg had 4 large windows on the side, and no round ones. A Wikipedia search told me that the model shown was made for the Chilean Exploratory Co. by General Electric. I have no knowledge of any other roads which used it.

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, March 14, 2011 2:58 PM

The one you have pictured is the one boys played with. The one at Strasburg is the one bigger boys play with and men used to work with!

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Posted by K4sPRR on Monday, March 14, 2011 3:58 PM

The Long Island Railroad has a version they classed as B-3, these were built by the PRR, no other roads are referenced.   As to the round windows, I have not seen any photo's with them in the sources I have nor mention in any modifications. 

The B-1 originally was built to run in pairs (0-6-0) but when rebuilt in the 1930's they were modified to run as single 3 wheel units.  The pantographs were modified at this time also.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:45 PM

I suspect a typo here, but a 3 wheel loco?  Wonder what the Whyte classification would be: 2-1-0 or maybe a 0-1-2?

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:58 AM

He means three axles.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:19 PM

Dave, I was sure he meant 3 axles, just couldn't resist the humor. 

Quite often a modeler will employ an 0-5-0 (his hand) to get things switched around, and I suppose someone missing a couple of fingers would then be an 0-3-0. Smile

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Posted by K4sPRR on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:59 PM

LOL, my fault...I did mean three axles.  As to the Whyte classification wouldn't three wheels be a 0-1-1/2-0?

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Posted by cefinkjr on Thursday, May 5, 2011 11:51 PM

Look very closely at the photo again, particularly what little you can see of the wheels.  Looks to me like the wheel to the right of the photo is smaller and plainer than the other two.  I'd bet that this is a box-cab superstructure on what was originally a 2-4-0 steam chassis.  Being an electric, wouldn't that make it a 1-B or would it be a 1+B?  That nomenclature has always confused me.

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, May 6, 2011 3:18 AM

European practice is count axles, not wheels.

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Posted by Bob.M on Friday, May 6, 2011 7:59 AM

cefinkjr

Look very closely at the photo again, particularly what little you can see of the wheels.  Looks to me like the wheel to the right of the photo is smaller and plainer than the other two.  I'd bet that this is a box-cab superstructure on what was originally a 2-4-0 steam chassis.  Being an electric, wouldn't that make it a 1-B or would it be a 1+B?  That nomenclature has always confused me.

The toy train has 2 front wheels which are not driven, and tend to fall off the tracks. The powered wheels (4) have 2 axles.  Is that 1-2-0 ?

Recently I saw the following boxcab at a Trolley museum in Connecticut. It is a Canadian Northern Z1-a. I have not yet actually counted the axles, but from the picture it looks like 0-3-0. Is the "Z" designation sort  of a catchall for odd configurations?

 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, May 6, 2011 12:08 PM

The wheel arrangement for a B-1 would be 0-6-0 in Whyte classification, or C in AAR designation.

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