D&H Dome car

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D&H Dome car
Posted by CP5415 on Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:00 PM
I'm building a D&H passenger consist & have purchased a dome car for it.
Would anyone here know what number or name these cars would have carried?

Thanks in advance for your help

Gordon

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:52 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I don't think the D&H had any dome cars. The clearance in the East did not allow domes. The B&O/C&O had some but only for a few years.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 12, 2004 1:02 AM
and he notes -

When 'Bucky' Dumaine took over the D&H in 1967, he reversed the decision to discontinue the 'Laurentian' service and leased two New Haven Grille cars and later replaced them with C&O diners.

Later that year, he obtained 12 stainless Pullman built cars from the Rio Grande, made surplus when they discontinued its Royal Gorge passenger service. The group consisted of two diners, one cafe-lounge, four baggage cars and five coaches. The leased diners were returned to C&O. This lot and their own refurbished coaches protected the schedules.

The only domes in regular service in the east were operated by the B&O and AutoTrain. The B&O cars ran on the 'Capitol Limited' between Washington, D.C. and Chicago. The domes were low enough to clear height restrictions under the catenary at Union Station in D.C. and tunnels along the route. I rode in them any times between D.C. and Cumberland, Md. and recall the tendency to duck when approaching the tunnels in West Virginia. They also restricted passengers from riding in the domes as the train approached or left D.C. I never could figure the logic in this. If a wire were to sag and touch the dome, the whole train would light up!

Auto Train avoided the D.C. clearances by building it's terminal in Lorton, Va. They had no problems with the former Santa Fe 'El Capitan' cars...
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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 15, 2004 1:33 PM
Two more roads in the east also operated domes on their passenger trains: Norfolk and Western, and the Southern Ry.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 15, 2004 7:47 PM
I recall the Auto Train domes.I believe they came from three sources."Mini-domes"defined by Auto Train as having a row of single seats on each side of the dome.Western Pacific(Calif Zephyr). Maxi-dome-double row of seats each side of dome,Union Pacific. Maxi dome-Full length dome-Santa Fe.Some of the UP domes came equipped as dome diners.D&H ran a classy passenger service from all accounts,but I don't believe they operated any domes,as the previous poster noted.Clearances would have been a definite issue.
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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 7:09 PM
D&H leased two CP Rail Domes for at least one year and possibly they operated for two. The two domes were coach dining types and operated between Montreal and Albany only on the Laurntian. The cars were painted with a Blue letterboard and received names while in D&H service. Hope this helps. Give me some time and I will find the names and exact time period operated if you are interested.
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Posted by chmoore on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:10 AM
There is a photo hanging on my wall of the two Laurentians (with the PAs) passing at a station stop and there is a dome car clearly in evidence.

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Posted by passengerfan on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 7:36 PM
Sorry for the delay finally got around to looking up the information on the D&H Domes. Between 1972 and 1974 the D&H leased two Via Rail Domes originally CP Domes. The two leased domes were Via Rail ex CP Rail 500 and 507. While in D&H service in the Laurentian they received a yellow letterboard and a yellow stripe below the windows. Both cars received D&H numbers and were named for their D&H service between Montreal and Albany. Via Rail 500 operated as D&H 35 and was named WILLSBORO POINT and Via Rail 507 operated as D&H 36 BLUFF POINT. Both domes were short Budd types with the standard 24-Seats in the dome. At the vestibule end of the car was coach seating for 26. Below the dome was a kitchen and six seat lounge. To the rear of the dome on the main level were the stairs leading to the dome and a buffet area for 17. Hope this info helps CP5415.

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