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Posted by BigJim on Saturday, June 7, 2008 10:55 AM
I remember watching coverage of the train on TV. What has been forever etched in my memory was that at one station so many people were crowding the station platform. The preceeding train carrying the press corp (someone please correct me if I am wrong) came roaring past these people and somewhere in the background the body of a child could be seen flying up into the air!

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:14 PM

 BigJim wrote:
I remember watching coverage of the train on TV. What has been forever etched in my memory was that at one station so many people were crowding the station platform. The preceeding train carrying the press corp (someone please correct me if I am wrong) came roaring past these people and somewhere in the background the body of a child could be seen flying up into the air!

IIRC the baby that was tossed was saved.  I'm really of two minds about the cortege train.  Obviously the people who overflowed the station platforms were in grief.  OTOH they were warned several times to clear the tracks IIRC.  I didn't know until this thread that the train preceding RFK's train was for the press, but it makes sense.  What doesn't make sense to me is that people would not get off the platforms when they were told repeatedly (or so I'm told) to clear the tracks, there were live trains coming thru fast. 

Any other opinions or observations?  I've been thinking about this one or 40 years, literally.  -  a.s.

 

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Posted by BigJim on Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:17 PM

Al,
The following was found at: http://www.steamlocomotive.com/GG1/funeral.shtml

On June 8, 1968, the 21 car funeral train of Robert F. Kennedy left New York City for Washington, DC. The train was led by GG1 number 4901 with number 4903 trailing, and ended with Penn Central open-platform business car number 120 carrying the body of the late Senator.

A three car pilot train pulled by GG1 number 4932 ran ahead of the funeral train and GG1s numbers 4900 and 4910 followed light as back-up motive power.

At Elizabeth, NJ, the crowd moved onto the tracks to get a view of the special train, just as "The Admiral", heading to New York City from Chicago, was rounding a curve. "The Admiral's" GG1 sounded its horn, but some of the people in the crowd did not clear the track in time and sadly two were killed and four seriously injured.

After the tragic accident the Penn Central ordered all train movement stopped until the special train passed. The funeral train arrived in Washington's Union Station four hours behind schedule and had caused disruption to the entire railroad.

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Posted by cnwfan51 on Monday, June 16, 2008 6:32 AM
     I remember my Dad and I seeing him on a campain train that came through Kearney Nebraska in March or April of 1968   After his assisnation I remeber my dad saying that he was glad that We went to see him in person   Larry
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Posted by alcodave on Friday, August 22, 2008 1:08 AM

Was there a commerative train set  once with a GG1 and passenger cars i think by IHC?

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:09 PM

Anything's possible.  Possibly hard to sell a train so steeped in tragedy.  Robert F. Kennedy always automatically reminds me of Vietnam. I remember hearing him speak when Martin Luther King was killed, on AFVN radio, and I remember reading the story of his funeral train in Stars & Stripes. On the "Penn Central Railroad."  Strange, yet familiar. Penn as in Penn Station, Central as in Grand Central Terminal.

San Joaquin Daylight Special, Fresno to Merced, Turlock, Modesto, Stockton, Lodi and Sacramento

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Posted by AgentKid on Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:31 PM

After seeing this thread reappear yesterday I went looking on youtube to see if I could see color areial footage I recall seeing of that train years ago on TV. I'm far from familiar with how that site works so it would be nice if someone else here could locate and link up with it. I'm fairly sure I saw it in an A&E Biography episode no doubt released in conjunction with the 25 or 30 anniversaries of his death.

It was taken from a helicopter when the tecnology of the time no doubt made it no mean feat, and the helicopter and the camera man were shakinig something fierce just to keep up with the train.The trees and buildings were going by in an amazing blur. No doubt trying to make up some of that 4 hour delay. As the engineers who worked with my father would have said, the hogger on that job 'had that unit running in the BIG sprocket!"

I really hope this footage is available on the web both for historians and fans of GG1's and NE corridor railroading.

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:27 PM

That would be neat to see but I doubt if it's on youtube now. Here's a link to a silent film clip of a GG1, viewable in relatively quick time by right-clicking the 2nd choice, "download low-res," and then click "save target as."

http://www.corbismotion.com/Popups/ViewClipDetail.aspx?clipID=7fffb713-0000-c8ed-2b02-162b1a291935

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Posted by AgentKid on Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:33 AM

Thank you very much for posting the link to this clip. I took the extra time to enjoy the hi-res version. The side shot from the field is very much like the clip I remember, except being taken from the air it went on for a longer period of time.

AgentKid

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