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Question about Indiana Harbor Belt Class U4a

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Question about Indiana Harbor Belt Class U4a
Posted by TakeFive on Friday, February 16, 2007 3:32 PM
I've recently acquired the AHM 0-8-0 IHB three cylinder shifter and cannot find in my somewhat limited reference material any data on the prototype. I would like to know the overall length (coupler to coupler) with tender attached, total weight and tractive effort. I found one reference to the tractive effort at 74,400 pounds, but I would like to confirm that from another source. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Posted by tstage on Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:40 AM

Dick,

First off, Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the forum! Good to have you aboard! Smile [:)]

I just bought a copy of Steam Power of the New York Central System - Vol. 1 so this is where I'm getting the info from.  Here's what it has for the class U-4a:

  • Built by: American Locomotive Company, February 1927
  • Tractive force: 75,700 lbs.
  • Booster: 13,800 lbs.
  • Cylinders (outside): 23-1/2 x 32"
  • Cylinders (inside): 23-1/2 x 28"
  • Driver diameter: 57"
  • Total Engine Weight: 294,000 lbs.
  • Grate Area: 72.5 sq. ft.
  • Steam Pressure: 200 lbs.

Ironically, Dick, the class U-4a pictured and described in the book mentioned above is actually Indiana Harbor Belt RR 0-8-0 #102.  They don't mention overall length for some reason but someone should be able to get you that information.

Hope that's a help...

Tom

P.S. I just received my Proto 2000 NYC U-3 0-8-0 in the mail yesterday.  Boy!  Is it a nice locomotive locomotive!  They regularly run $250.00 MSRP.  I was able to pick one up for $90.00.  With a Digitrax DH163L0 decoder in her, she really crawls. Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by TakeFive on Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:07 AM
Tom,

Thanks much for the information. The model I have is 102, as you probably already know. Great to have some input. Thanks again and congratulations on your U3, isn't ebay great?
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Posted by ckpcpqq on Wednesday, February 5, 2014 12:04 PM

Here's some information on the U4-A.  It differs slightly from the figures quoted earlier.

http://dhke.com/ihbarchive/ihbsteam.html

A nice photo of a U4 can be found on p.66 of "Indiana Harbor Belt in Color" by Sam Beck and me.  It was published by Morning Sun Books.

Bill Gustason

 

 

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Posted by AltonFan on Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:23 PM
MR published drawings of this locomotive, and there were several articles about detailing it. Try the MR indexes.

Dan

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