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World War II European trains / models for HO.

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World War II European trains / models for HO.
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 4, 2003 10:26 AM
Hey anyone know of any good resources for some world war II trains and models? Also any examples anyone has of a model railroad that was done in this era would be great.

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World War II European trains / models for HO.
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 4, 2003 10:26 AM
Hey anyone know of any good resources for some world war II trains and models? Also any examples anyone has of a model railroad that was done in this era would be great.

Thanks.
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Posted by der5997 on Monday, August 4, 2003 5:39 PM
I think for German prototype you need to get to the Fleischmann web site ( Fleischmann+Model +Trains as a search?) Hornby or Triang for the Brit's, but that will likely be OO rather than HO.
Anybody else got any ideas?

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Posted by der5997 on Monday, August 4, 2003 5:39 PM
I think for German prototype you need to get to the Fleischmann web site ( Fleischmann+Model +Trains as a search?) Hornby or Triang for the Brit's, but that will likely be OO rather than HO.
Anybody else got any ideas?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 4, 2003 7:56 PM
You may want to try the Marklin Home Page, there , you'll find links to just abt anywhere you may want go with german or euro trains
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 4, 2003 7:56 PM
You may want to try the Marklin Home Page, there , you'll find links to just abt anywhere you may want go with german or euro trains
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Posted by wp8thsub on Monday, August 4, 2003 11:41 PM
Although I don't remember the manufacturers of the products used, I recall an article from about 20 years ago (in the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazzette?) on a WWII layout built by a former German soldier. He was representing the narrow guage railroads hastily built in the German occupied Soviet Union using mostly commercially available models in On2 or On30.

One detail that really stuck out to me was a scene showing Soviet POWs performing forced labor right of way work under the supervision of armed German troops. Not politically correct but accurate.

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Posted by wp8thsub on Monday, August 4, 2003 11:41 PM
Although I don't remember the manufacturers of the products used, I recall an article from about 20 years ago (in the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazzette?) on a WWII layout built by a former German soldier. He was representing the narrow guage railroads hastily built in the German occupied Soviet Union using mostly commercially available models in On2 or On30.

One detail that really stuck out to me was a scene showing Soviet POWs performing forced labor right of way work under the supervision of armed German troops. Not politically correct but accurate.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 12:22 AM
Check out the publications that Armor Modelers reference, I believe it is Squadron Publications or something like that. I recall a booklet of all armored trains, rail cannons, etc. but you need to be looking at armor sources, nor model rr.
Another good source if your trying to model an armored train is the Burt Lancaster movie "The Train" there is a full size armored train mock up that get blown to pieces in the movie that might give you enough to base a model on. Its also a TERRIFIC movie.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 12:22 AM
Check out the publications that Armor Modelers reference, I believe it is Squadron Publications or something like that. I recall a booklet of all armored trains, rail cannons, etc. but you need to be looking at armor sources, nor model rr.
Another good source if your trying to model an armored train is the Burt Lancaster movie "The Train" there is a full size armored train mock up that get blown to pieces in the movie that might give you enough to base a model on. Its also a TERRIFIC movie.

   Have fun with your trains

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Posted by sebamat on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:20 AM
For trains: most european supplier offer models of the 30'-40 (or earlier) that can be used for WW2 RR. For german trains Liliput/bachman and roco had steam engines in war paint (one even armored&camoufled!) or cars with military equipment (tanks&guns). Lima had a train with a railroad 'big gun' on 12 axles and support cars.
Roco has a full line of 'military vehicles' (tanks, trucks, guns) in HO, and quite a lot is WW2. that will help for the scenery.
I newer seen a WW2 layout... probably because it is hard to run trains through a bombed out yard!

Literature: try to search on amazon.de you get a few hits like
Eisenbahn zwischen Ostfront und Atlantikwall 1939 - 1945 von Andreas Knipping, Reinhard Schulz
Die Eisenbahnen im Zweiten Weltkrieg. von Eugen Kreidler
Deutsche Kriegslokomotiven 1939 bis 1945. von Alfred B. Gottwaldt
Die Deutsche Reichsbahn im Zweiten Weltkrieg. von Janusz Piekalkiewicz
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Posted by sebamat on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:20 AM
For trains: most european supplier offer models of the 30'-40 (or earlier) that can be used for WW2 RR. For german trains Liliput/bachman and roco had steam engines in war paint (one even armored&camoufled!) or cars with military equipment (tanks&guns). Lima had a train with a railroad 'big gun' on 12 axles and support cars.
Roco has a full line of 'military vehicles' (tanks, trucks, guns) in HO, and quite a lot is WW2. that will help for the scenery.
I newer seen a WW2 layout... probably because it is hard to run trains through a bombed out yard!

Literature: try to search on amazon.de you get a few hits like
Eisenbahn zwischen Ostfront und Atlantikwall 1939 - 1945 von Andreas Knipping, Reinhard Schulz
Die Eisenbahnen im Zweiten Weltkrieg. von Eugen Kreidler
Deutsche Kriegslokomotiven 1939 bis 1945. von Alfred B. Gottwaldt
Die Deutsche Reichsbahn im Zweiten Weltkrieg. von Janusz Piekalkiewicz
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Posted by detting on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:09 PM
Lilliput seems to have a bunch of WW2 german items in HO. I am getting a Greman Army tank flat car soon and will post my thoughts on it.

Also Hauler has some nice resin casting, although I have not seen them personally.

As for documentation, there is a scratchbuilding article in the May 2003 FSM. I have not had a chance to look at it yet. I suspect that it is in 1/35, but it should be fairly easy to scale down.

For tanks, Trident and Heiser make some pretty detailed kits. Roco are nice as well. These are the choices for my static tanks.

If you want to add another dimension to your layout, think about remote controlled tanks. Check out the Combat Digi-Q line of tanks. They are compressed 1/87 but offer a wealth of operational potential.

I am currently researching 6/44 in Normady. Where are you modelling??

Cheers,
Mike

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Posted by detting on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:09 PM
Lilliput seems to have a bunch of WW2 german items in HO. I am getting a Greman Army tank flat car soon and will post my thoughts on it.

Also Hauler has some nice resin casting, although I have not seen them personally.

As for documentation, there is a scratchbuilding article in the May 2003 FSM. I have not had a chance to look at it yet. I suspect that it is in 1/35, but it should be fairly easy to scale down.

For tanks, Trident and Heiser make some pretty detailed kits. Roco are nice as well. These are the choices for my static tanks.

If you want to add another dimension to your layout, think about remote controlled tanks. Check out the Combat Digi-Q line of tanks. They are compressed 1/87 but offer a wealth of operational potential.

I am currently researching 6/44 in Normady. Where are you modelling??

Cheers,
Mike

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